<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Dean</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In 1990 I was not flying, which is not
important. What is important is...did you win with that Mustang design?
There are only TWO possible answers:</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">1. Yes you won due to superoir design</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2. No, you lost due to poor "biased"
judging and the Pattern community not undestanding how far ahead of the
curve you were in 1990.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">There are No other possible answers.</font>
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Gray Fowler<br>
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Composites Engineering</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Hi Gray,</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">You never saw my '90/'91 season
Stand-off Mustang?</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br>
From:</b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Gray E Fowler<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:48 AM<b><br>
To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List<b><br>
Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff<br>
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I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I first got in to pattern
I saw all the comments flyin' around about how turnaround kills attendance.
To this day I cannot figure out why the older guys (which if you flew non
turn around you were either very young then or old now) wank so much about
this change. Perhaps the decline of pattern from its heyday has more to
do with with other RC interest than stinkin' turnaround changes. When I
was young, we had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched,
unless Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that
case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today competing with
150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food Channel????!!!!!" I
think not! Learn how to make a quiche......or MASH. As you can see
this is quite a quandary.</font><font size=3> <br>
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I will say that when I first investigated pattern and found out everyone
had $550 engines instead of my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still
might be.</font><font size=3> <br>
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To me turnaround is the coolest and not the problem.....when does this
argument end? I would guess in another 10 years, because at that time all
that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due to age.</font><font size=3>
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When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told me alot
but NEVER told me that turnaround sucked........</font><font size=3> <br>
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Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and pristine
"works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking
they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......</font><font size=3>
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Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets see, No problem
with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't feed the kids for
a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying master piece, and of course
$2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I gotta learn turnaround too!!!!
No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the plane was bad enough, now I
gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out for sure......</font><font size=3>
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Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern plane.............I
think that that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges, increases
rudder authority, slows the plane down better, increasing smoothness and
gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND
better throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted these
tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot believe that
the rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder
you find turnaround so difficult.<br>
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Gray Fowler<br>
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