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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>DaveL322@comcast.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 17, 2006
4:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fuel Weight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And the cost of support equipment - glow drivers, electric
starters. Support equipment for the electrics is less prone to wear/tear
and need to be repaired/replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And then the cost of maintaining the powerplants themselves - Properly
setup and maintained electrics need little or no maintenance. And then
there is the time savings (different people will put a different value on their
time) of not having to do the additional maintenance for the glow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: "Rick Kent" <knowhow3@bellsouth.net> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>That may be true if you're considering fuel costs only. I
would think it's fair to factor in the savings realized by not having to
frequently repair/replace your airframe and radio
equipment from vibration induced wear and damage as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Date:</span></font></i></b><font
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a>; <a
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Fuel Weight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I spend around $15 per gallon (20% nitro, 2C). That
means that the cost per oz is about $0.12/oz. I spend about 14 oz to
fly the Master schedule with normal winds. In <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City> we should use around 16 oz (2C
engines). This means that the glow fuel cost is about
$1.64/flight. For electric, the question is how many cycles is the
average life of the batteries? Let's make it easier and assume that the
average life is 100 cycles. This means that the cost per fly would be
$7.40/flight. Clearly, electric is 4.5 times more expensive assuming
that 100 cycles is correct compared with 2C engines. My personal
conclusion is: I will wait until the battery manufactures give us at
least equal guaranty that we get when we buy batteries for cars.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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From: "Michael Laggis" <fishgod@pobox.mtaonline.net> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It may be cheaper in the end, but laying
out the $$$ to get started is the hard thing.(4 sets of batteries, chargers,
power supplies/generator). </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Earl Haury<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 17, 2006
9:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fuel Weight</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Electricity is a whole lot cheaper than glow fuel - it's
just the darn tanks that are expensive (and heavy)!</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net" title="natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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17, 2006 12:12 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Fuel Weight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>24oz is .1875 gallons. Nitro fuel weighs about 7.5# / gal.
The fuel weight would be 22.5oz, but, a pound and a half is close enough
for government work.</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I didn't look up the weight of electrons, but one of my
battery packs weighs 2.5lb and cost $740 and I still think electric is
cheaper ------- and, it doesen't take creative
accounting.
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