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<DIV>Wayne </DIV>
<DIV>You note the same pluses++ I see with fuel draw and bottle shape.The DZ
clunk fits the bottle curve perfect. My idea is dry weight
savings ....I don't have to carry 24 oz fuel either,,,just enough for the
pattern. </DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:55
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<DIV>Jim,</DIV>
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<DIV>Glad it worked for you. The weight savings I get over using a
20 oz. DuBro tank is 1.7oz. I still get the same amount
of flying time with the 16.9 oz. coke bottle tank even though it is
smaller. I can draw fuel better because of the curve of the bottle
and the indents at the back of the bottle keep the clunk in the fuel
better. So technically I am saving 1.7oz of weight with the bottle plus
I am not carrying around about 3 extra oz of fuel that I normally would in the
DuBro tank. The flat bottom of the DuBro tank does not lend to a good
fuel draw when it is near the last three or four oz. I thought about
using a bladder tank but after trying this it wasn't necessary.</DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> I just flew the coke bottle tank today and I get 15 minutes on 24
oz of fuel.It actually draws fuel down to 1 oz in the tank,doing the Masters
pattern.</DIV>
<DIV>The upside is I don't have to fill it full to complete the pattern. The
weight savings is 2.5 oz using this tank.</DIV>
<DIV> To review...... this was a 33 oz, 1 liter coke bottle' that I
pickled with 30 % heli for 2 months.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV>
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<DIV>Wow!!! 24 oz.... I can fly 15 min. on the
15.9 oz. bottle with my OS 1.40. I was wondering why these wide body
planes started getting so popular.... got to have'em so you can put a big
enough fuel tank in them.</DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 15, 2006
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<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> I was getting ready to update my experiment with the 33 oz
coke bottle filled with fuel 30%. I let it sit and shrink for 2
months,then when it appeared to stop shrinking I removed the fuel and
carefully measured the volume.The bottle started life as 33 oz,1
liter and now holds 24 oz liquid. Which is perfect for a thirsty
160 DZ with a 4 blade prop.I have it in my Smaragd and will fly (test)
tomorrow. Should work fine and no more shrinking.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 15,
2006 6:21 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>FYI... I had a conversation with a flying friend the
other day about the<BR>soda bottle fuel tanks and the way they
shrink. He happens to work for<BR>Pepsi and explained to me that
the bottles are blow molded. He said if they<BR>are not used
with in a certain period of time that the memory in the
plastic<BR>takes over and they will shrink in size and then they have
to discard the<BR>old bottles. The carbonized soda keeps the
shape of the bottle till used.<BR>He said that most likely the nitro
content speeds up the process and could<BR>explain why some of you
using them with higher then 15% nitro are<BR>experiencing this
phenomenon.<BR>So.... drink another one.... rinse and
fill.<BR><BR>Wayne Galligan<BR></DIV>
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