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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I call it a re-use of the dining room. We had
a 12 inch 'dusting' as well in DC. Black ice everywhere this
morning. I am having fun turing Balsa in to mounds of saw
dust.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Randy</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 1:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct
Servo Drive</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=687394818-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>That's a padded room, right? I call it the
workshop.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=687394818-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A></FONT> </P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Grow
Pattern<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 1:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dean,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2> What
snow?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's only a 12" dusting.....Signed, ex Boston
MA inmate....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You should just "get a room" for yourself and
the "tuned-pipe-pundits", then talk 2-c's and pipes until the snow
melts! That will keep you all sane! :-)))) John's RV is vacant right
now.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Evl-Eric.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean
Pappas</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 1:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Direct Servo Drive</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Yeah, John!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>What ever happened to the "obvious to one skilled in the art"
clause? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Maybe what is patented is the arrangement of servo-box, or
extension arm ... in any case, this falls under the heading of
re-patenting the wheel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Granted, on a 3-D only setup, I'd hook up to the servo this
way!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>signed, snow covered in Joisey</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=546113418-13022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>A.K.A.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>John Ferrell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 1:30
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If that can be worthy of a patent, the
inmates are in charge of the asylum!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob
Richards</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006
9:08 AM</DIV>
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Direct Servo Drive</DIV>
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<DIV>My feeling exactly.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Ed Alt <<A
href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</A>></I></B>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Never have seen it before, but I guess
the main question I have concerns the potential for loss of
effective torque transmitted to the control surface. I see
that they claim it's better due to no losses. That would be
true in the sense that you don't lose that little bit in the linkage
friction etc., but if you only want, say, 25 degrees of surface
throw each direction, it would appear that you would have to limit
the servo travel to 25 degrees as well. If that's true, then
you have less mechanical advantage for a given degree of movement
for the surface, since you would normally have a servo traveling
about doub! le that distance. The control surface speed would
be quicker, assuming the load is handled without any blowback or
slowdown of movement due to the effectively lower torque transmitted
while moving. Maybe I'm not seeing it right, but it looks like
it might not be such a good thing to use, unless you were already
planning on having something close to a 1:1 correspondence of
degrees of servo arm movement to degrees of surface
travel.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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