[NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled

Fri May 15 05:05:38 AKDT 2020

I couldn't agree more.  The only way AMA could do it is with a very strong
event director but they will offer little support.  And that is from
experience.

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To: Vicente Bortone; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled

Given the AMA's general disinterest in the NATs or competition for the last
decade I feel they have neither the inclination or the manpower to make any
Nats event happen without enormous support from the SIG.

Anthony

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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled 

We need to be realistic. I am 100% sure that any pattern contest including
the Nats and or US team selection won't happen without the NSRCA be
involved. 

Vicente "Vince" Bortone.   

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:24 AM John Decker via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

Don,

The AMA has been in the loop the entire time.

John

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 06:52:18 AM CDT, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote: 

Steve,

You make valid points.  I would hope the NSRCA leadership worked with AMA
before making a decision and saying the NATS is canceled.  The NATS is an
AMA contest not a NSRCA contest just as a local contest is generally an AMA
contest.  Would you think it correct for NSRCA to cancel a local event and
publish it as canceled without consulting the host?  

Don Ramsey

AMA 6096

NSRCA - Yes

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
Behalf Of Stephen Franc via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:29 PM
To: Atwood, Mark; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 NATS Canceled

So I guess the same rationale applies to the Free Flight and Control line
and RC Scale competitions which have been canceled?   I certainly understand
the concerns for the World Selection process...  But it sort of raises the
question of why have/support the NSRCA?  If the leadership of our
organization, after much discussion and consideration of current and
projected limitations imposed upon us by the Coronavirus and mandated
restrictions, came to the difficult decision of not participating in the
NATS this year due to what hardships will be associated with attending
(anticipated cost of putting on a poorly attended contest, lack of
accommodations, lack of restaurants, anticipated judging difficulties and
participation issues due to mandated social distancing, extremely late
decision by the AMA to even host the outdoor NATS, etc.)  and this decision
is just ignored by the AMA....  Then it must be time to disband the NSRCA
due to its lack of recognition as a special interest group.   We've had
districts leave the fold of the NSRCA in the past and they have survived...
holding the same amount of contests, doing judging, giving out awards, etc.
Add to that the fact that you don't even need to be a NSRCA member to
participate in NATS  (only AMA) then why are all these District VPs and
elected officials of the NSRCA bothering to put in a lot of time and effort
supporting the hobby of RC Precision Aerobatic flying.  To put on the NATS
it still takes a lot of volunteers for  event CD, judges, score keeping,
line bosses, etc.  Is the AMA planning on providing personnel to do all
these functions?   Unfortunately not all districts have had adequate
practice times for pilots to become proficient with the new sequences due to
field closures, social districting, and localize executive orders by
governors.  So in reality what level of competition will even be present if
the AMA decides to proceed with this event.  The 2020 Pandemic NATS will
need to have an asterix next to the Class winners to signify insignificant
competition due to lack of participation. I believe everyone in the NSRCA
has always promoted and supported the AMA.  Now its time for the AMA to
recognize the NSRCA and get behind the NSRCA recommendation.

Steve Franc

AMA 633375

NSRCA  4599  

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

I hate to provide shallow hope, but I have it from the AMA that this is a
bit of a mis-statement.  The NSRCA has elected not to participate in running
the AMA Nationals, but the AMA has yet to cancel the AMA Nationals.  They
are well aware of the effort involved to run one without the NSRCA, but as
of now are seriously considering doing so.  If Indiana will permit it, they
would prefer not to cancel their event.   

They (AMA) still plan to make a decision on June 10th.  This clearly adds a
strong data point in their considerations, but I strongly hesitate to say
it's cancelled.  Moreover, if the AMA continues to go forward with the Nats
in July, I would strongly suspect that the FAI Team selection committee
would push to utilize that event for the F3A team selection.  

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On May 14, 2020, at 11:31 AM, Archie Stafford via NSRCA-discussion
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NOTICE: THE 2020 PRECISION AEROBATICS NATS HAS BEEN CANCELLED. From Archie
Stafford : The board members and officers of NSRCA have unanimously voted to
cancel the 2020 Precision Aerobatics Nationals.  This decision was made
because of the uncertainty and risk  of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as
time and financial constraints brought on by the virus to competitors and
support staff.  We believe that this is both a logical and safe decision. 

Thank you and stay safe. 

Archie Stafford - President NSRCA

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