[NSRCA-discussion] Apology

John Ferrell jferrell13 at triad.rr.com
Tue Aug 20 19:32:16 AKDT 2019


It looks so easy to find a single soul to hold responsible for whatever 
went wrong. I don't want to up set anyone because we need all the 
talents we can muster to support our cause.

There are precious little paid to help our volunteers with expenses. The 
budget to support the entire Nats has been under fire since the 
beginning of time. I hope that it is still as much fun for you folks as 
it was for me. My credentials for even speaking are limited to a Leader 
Member and an ordinary CD.

It was an especially wicked "FUBAR".   I knew Joseph since he was a bump 
on his mothers belly and he will not let this incident dampen his resolve!

We all share the burden  of the glitch .  Thanks for letting an old fart 
vent.

On 8/20/2019 9:15 PM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>
> + a whole bunch!!  Someone from the USA management should not just 
> suggest that, but argue very strongly for it.
>
> whose software was it? The FAIs?  I was a software developer at 
> several points in my career, and one just does not run an event or 
> demo or anything with a package that has not been *thoroughly verified 
> and tested*. In my opinion, time crunch is not an excise, it is a 
> demonstration of faulty planning.
>
> */Phil Spelt, AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member
> SPA L-18, Board Member, NSRCA 2032, KCRC Emeritus
> Knoxville, TN  37931   (865) 604-0541c/*
>
>> On August 20, 2019 at 8:29 PM Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion 
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yes ! An automatic invite I think is the least they could do for 
>> their mistake......
>>
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>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> 
>> on behalf of Monte Richard via NSRCA-discussion 
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2019 8:21:50 PM
>> *To:* Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>; General pattern 
>> discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Apology
>> That really sucks. They should at least give him an invitation to 
>> compete in 2021 whether he makes the team or not.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion < 
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I apologize if that was not clear. The incorrect normalization 
>>> put him in 11th and Brett and 12th, where they should have finished 
>>> 10th and 11th respectively.
>>>
>>> Koji Suzuki would have moved to 12th
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 7:38 PM, Stuart Chale < schale1 at outlook.com 
>>> <mailto:schale1 at outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> CAUTION: Message originated from outside of Paragon. Use caution 
>>>> regarding any links, attachments, credential and financial requests.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that means he should have been in the finals?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion < 
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
>>>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it’s important that everyone sees this.  I will also post 
>>>>> it on our team page.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m still working on getting a revised final ranking from the 
>>>>> organizers.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Peter Uhlig < peteruhligf3a at aol.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:peteruhligf3a at aol.com>>
>>>>>> *Date:* August 20, 2019 at 6:19:03 PM EDT
>>>>>> *To:* jszczur2000 at gmail.com <mailto:jszczur2000 at gmail.com>, 
>>>>>> dszczur at verizon.net <mailto:dszczur at verizon.net>, "Skinner, Bob" 
>>>>>> < samaa-gm at mweb.co.za <mailto:samaa-gm at mweb.co.za>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* *Apology*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> */_Formal apology to Mr Joseph Szczur_/*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Joseph Szczur,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On behalf of the FAI Jury, and the organizer of the 2019 F3A 
>>>>>> World Championship, I must profusely apologize for the mistake in 
>>>>>> the semi-final ranking list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The score keeper and the Jury worked under trying conditions 
>>>>>> during the long days. All results were spot-checked on all the 
>>>>>> days by the Jury and the contest director as best we could, also 
>>>>>> making spot checks of the semi-final results, on Friday evening. 
>>>>>> We allowed at least an hour before proceeding with the team 
>>>>>> manager’s meeting. At this time we had no reason to suspect 
>>>>>> anything untoward in the results of the semi-finals, especially 
>>>>>> since all the calculations were performed electronically, and we 
>>>>>> applied some measure of trust in the system. The results were 
>>>>>> published according to the rules, and neither the contest 
>>>>>> management, nor the Jury received any enquiries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the beginning of the last final round (Unknown 2), the 
>>>>>> developer of the scoring software application, mentioned to the 
>>>>>> jury that there may be a possible problem with the semi-final 
>>>>>> results. By that time the developer was not quite sure about the 
>>>>>> extent of the problem, and if this potential error could have had 
>>>>>> an effect on the ranking. The jury unanimously decided not to 
>>>>>> stop the event, as long as the problem was not absolutely 
>>>>>> correctly identified and verified. At that point, time was of 
>>>>>> course very limited, and the priority of the organiser was to 
>>>>>> finish the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the conclusion of the flights, and after verifying the results 
>>>>>> of the finals to be able to officially publish them, the jury and 
>>>>>> the developer took a closer look at the potential problem. By the 
>>>>>> time the problem was correctly and fully identified, the flight 
>>>>>> line was no longer in operation, there were no judges left on the 
>>>>>> field, and all the required infrastructure, wi-fi, electricity, 
>>>>>> etc had been dismantled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have known you for the last six years as a fair, keen, and 
>>>>>> great sportsman, and can fully understand your frustration, 
>>>>>> disappointment, and possible anger that this error had to occur 
>>>>>> to you. The scorekeeper, contest director, and jury members did 
>>>>>> not realise the extent of the error until much later. We did not 
>>>>>> spot the mistake during checking of the semi-final results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This unfortunate turn of events has left you the victim in the 
>>>>>> process, and we can only apologise for this injustice, and we all 
>>>>>> hope that you will accept our sincere apology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>> Peter Uhlig
>>>>>> FAI Jury President at 2019 FAI F3A World Championship for 
>>>>>> Aerobatic Model Aircraft
>>>>>>
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John Ferrell W8CCW
    Julian NC 27283
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than with a crowd going the wrong direction.
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