[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Sun Dec 30 07:36:09 AKST 2018

Good one John.  I have been waiting for a post like this.

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:29 AM John Pavlick via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org wrote:

> Don’t worry guys – the FBI has been watching the list and they are
> convinced that Russia has influenced the NSRCA elections… LOL
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> *On
> Behalf Of *Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:03 PM
> *To:* Rick Sweeney <rixsweeney at gmail.com>; Terrence Walker <
> tewalker10 at yahoo.com>; General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>; Dr. Mike Harrison <
> drmikedds at sbcglobal.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> This is a discussion group that is an open forum.
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> It is open for differing opinions so that all can express thoughts good
> and not so good. In agreement or opposing.
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> What you are promoting is censoring thoughts and views. Impeding 1st
> amendment rights for Freedom of Speach.
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> Are we so afraid that we must put up a phony image to attract new pilots
> by suppressing disagreements? I hate to think where that will take us.
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> I believe conflict can be good. Discussions that have been stated on both
> points of view is not that alarming. I will also submit that this forum
> will not be the reason people join and stay. It's more about what becomes
> of the discussions like this that determines the health of pattern.
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> Nobody, that I have read, is looking at a formal grievance process, this
> thought is rediculous. If a grievance was to be filed, it would need to be
> with the AMA because the concern being raised is regarding the BoD
> decisions. I dont think that is the way to go either as I doubt the AMA is
> interested in overseeing a SIG.
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> And your right, this discussion has ran its course.
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> LD
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> From: Rick Sweeney <rixsweeney at gmail.com>
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> Date: 12/29/18 7:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
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> To: Terrence Walker <tewalker10 at yahoo.com>, General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, 'Larry Diamond' <ldiamond at diamondrc.com>,
> "Dr. Mike Harrison" <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net>
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> Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> This list should be delegated to promoting pattern, provide positive
> reinforcement for improvement , help and assist our volunteer’s and show
> some integrity. Broadcasting grievances against the NSRCA or inserting
> personal attacks in your missive’s should not be tolerated no matter how
> right you think you are. We would be better off just shutting this list
> down than let it continue. I find it disheartening, imagine how a new
> member who joins the list to gain knowledge and discuss Aerobatics
> interprets it.
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> If you have a grievance, and it means that much to you, privately
> cultivate a constituency to plead your case and take it up with your DVP.
> If your getting no response move it up the chain of command until you do.
> If your case holds water, the BOD can determine a course of action and
> correction.
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> For 2019 lets show some respect and provide some dignity to the volunteers
> that help run this show as they certainly deserve it.
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> Sincerely
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> Rick Sweeney
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of Terrence Walker via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2018 6:17:38 PM
> *To:* 'Larry Diamond'; 'General pattern discussion'; Dr. Mike Harrison
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Mike,
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> Thank you for this post. I wonder what someone from outside the NSRCA
> would think of all the rhetoric than has transpired on this list.
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> Terrence Walker (no relation to Joe Walker).
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> On ‎Saturday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎01‎:‎39‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PST, Dr. Mike
> Harrison via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> This is all really pitiful.  Regardless the mistakes or the consequences,
> all of these board members, volunteers, helpers,etc. typically do this at
> their expense of time, money , effort, etc.  they don’t have to help, they
> normally are just giving back so that whatever activity can even exist.  Do
> they make mistakes, of course, lots of them, but they deserve
> consideration, real respect, and kind responses.  Otherwise they go away
> and the end result is an even worse outcome.  I have done my share of
> volunteering and helping.  I have received more than my share of
> unwarranted abuse from those of differing opinions.  It is offensive and
> oft times without substantial cause.
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> I want to make clear that the vast majority of the membership do
> appreciate and benefit greatly from the work and effort that the board or
> any other volunteer puts forth to make what we have possible.
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> This could have all been handled better.  We will just lose more that are
> willing to help because of this mess.
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> I want to thank all of you that serve to make our pastime possible.
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> I will probably go off the list. To me it is just negative. It is just so
> pathetic.
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> Mike Harrison
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Larry Diamond
> via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 4:23 PM
> *To:* Stephen Franc <franc.k3ez at gmail.com>; General pattern discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Awesome... lol
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> From: Stephen Franc via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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> Date: 12/27/18 3:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
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> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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> Just couldn't help myself.  Only a few days left to vote for the candidate
> of your choice.   Please take note....   there are 3 Walker signs and 3
> Stafford signs.
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