[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Sun Dec 30 06:29:43 AKST 2018

Don’t worry guys – the FBI has been watching the list and they are convinced that Russia has influenced the NSRCA elections… LOL

John Pavlick

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From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> On Behalf Of Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:03 PM
To: Rick Sweeney <rixsweeney at gmail.com>; Terrence Walker <tewalker10 at yahoo.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>; Dr. Mike Harrison <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election

This is a discussion group that is an open forum.

It is open for differing opinions so that all can express thoughts good and not so good. In agreement or opposing. 

What you are promoting is censoring thoughts and views. Impeding 1st amendment rights for Freedom of Speach.

Are we so afraid that we must put up a phony image to attract new pilots by suppressing disagreements? I hate to think where that will take us.

I believe conflict can be good. Discussions that have been stated on both points of view is not that alarming. I will also submit that this forum will not be the reason people join and stay. It's more about what becomes of the discussions like this that determines the health of pattern.

Nobody, that I have read, is looking at a formal grievance process, this thought is rediculous. If a grievance was to be filed, it would need to be with the AMA because the concern being raised is regarding the BoD decisions. I dont think that is the way to go either as I doubt the AMA is interested in overseeing a SIG.

And your right, this discussion has ran its course.

LD

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From: Rick Sweeney <rixsweeney at gmail.com <mailto:rixsweeney at gmail.com> > 

Date: 12/29/18 7:20 PM (GMT-06:00) 

To: Terrence Walker <tewalker10 at yahoo.com <mailto:tewalker10 at yahoo.com> >, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> >, 'Larry Diamond' <ldiamond at diamondrc.com <mailto:ldiamond at diamondrc.com> >, "Dr. Mike Harrison" <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net <mailto:drmikedds at sbcglobal.net> > 

Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Election 

This list should be delegated to promoting pattern, provide positive reinforcement for improvement , help and assist our volunteer’s and show some integrity. Broadcasting grievances against the NSRCA or inserting personal attacks in your missive’s should not be tolerated no matter how right you think you are. We would be better off just shutting this list down than let it continue. I find it disheartening, imagine how a new member who joins the list to gain knowledge and discuss Aerobatics interprets it.  

If you have a grievance, and it means that much to you, privately cultivate a constituency to plead your case and take it up with your DVP. If your getting no response move it up the chain of command until you do. If your case holds water, the BOD can determine a course of action and correction. 

For 2019 lets show some respect and provide some dignity to the volunteers that help run this show as they certainly deserve it. 

Sincerely

Rick Sweeney    

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From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> > on behalf of Terrence Walker via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> >
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 6:17:38 PM
To: 'Larry Diamond'; 'General pattern discussion'; Dr. Mike Harrison
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election 

Mike, 

Thank you for this post. I wonder what someone from outside the NSRCA would think of all the rhetoric than has transpired on this list. 

Terrence Walker (no relation to Joe Walker).

On ‎Saturday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2018‎ ‎07‎:‎01‎:‎39‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PST, Dr. Mike Harrison via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> > wrote: 

This is all really pitiful.  Regardless the mistakes or the consequences, all of these board members, volunteers, helpers,etc. typically do this at their expense of time, money , effort, etc.  they don’t have to help, they normally are just giving back so that whatever activity can even exist.  Do they make mistakes, of course, lots of them, but they deserve consideration, real respect, and kind responses.  Otherwise they go away and the end result is an even worse outcome.  I have done my share of volunteering and helping.  I have received more than my share of unwarranted abuse from those of differing opinions.  It is offensive and oft times without substantial cause.  

I want to make clear that the vast majority of the membership do appreciate and benefit greatly from the work and effort that the board or any other volunteer puts forth to make what we have possible.  

This could have all been handled better.  We will just lose more that are willing to help because of this mess.  

I want to thank all of you that serve to make our pastime possible. 

I will probably go off the list. To me it is just negative. It is just so pathetic.  

Mike Harrison

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 4:23 PM
To: Stephen Franc <franc.k3ez at gmail.com <mailto:franc.k3ez at gmail.com> >; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> >
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election

Awesome... lol

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From: Stephen Franc via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> > 

Date: 12/27/18 3:42 PM (GMT-06:00) 

To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Election 

Just couldn't help myself.  Only a few days left to vote for the candidate of your choice.   Please take note....   there are 3 Walker signs and 3 Stafford signs.

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