[NSRCA-discussion] Election

Sun Dec 23 05:58:25 AKST 2018

Let me see now, if I were voting for the POTUS, (I know this would be a
minor election compared to NSRCA officers),  CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, all
the networks would be at the polls tracking the minute by minute election
results and would be airing them nation wide, right up to the point where
they declared a winner.  Then they would be tracking just about every county
in the US of A to reveal how everyone voted.  Unless those running for
office are themselves , somehow, stuffing the ballot box, I don't see a big
deal here.  Seems to be the American way of running an election.

Curt Oberg

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+1

This is wrong at so many levels. Let's void this election. You just don't
start tallying ballots before the election closes. 

Ken Dunlap 

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Plus 2 or 3 or 16...jeeeze.

David Harmon

NSRCA 586

AMA 5053

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Yes agreed 

We will have to nullify the election and start a new process 

Jonathan Bruml

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Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:52 PM
To: Frackowiak Tony; General pattern discussion
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It may be the end of days because I agree with Frak.  

There is absolutely no reason why the data should have been available let
alone discussed.  

The big question now is how do we recover? 

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On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

I'm sorry that you don't see the impropriety here. You have an incumbent
officer running for re-election able to see just how close the election is
and then being able to drum up more votes for himself. 

This election is now tainted. No one should be able to see the vote tally
before the voting period has ended. The election should be nullified, the
party or parties involved in releasing the vote tally prior to the
conclusion of voting should be censured and removed from the process. The
election should be held again and the voting results sent to an outside
party. After the end of their normal term no decisions should be made by the
BOD until a proper election can be held and the newly elected officers
installed.

Should we as NSRCA members not be allowed a fair election?

Tony Frackowiak

On Dec 22, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Monte Richard <mrichard at compassengineering.com>
wrote:

The discussion was centered around the fact that the voting was close to
encourage the district Vice Presidents to encourage the members in their
districts to cast their votes. It appears to have worked as this election
looks like it will have the highest voter turnout in NSRCA history.
Certainly a lot higher then the previous election which only had a voter
turnout of 12 members.

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On Dec 22, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <
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wrote:

I was looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting. During
that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion about the
current vote count in the election.  

Isn't voting open until the end of the month?  And isn't there a longer time
for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes being tallied and
discussed by the Board before the end of the voting period?

That is highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it
sounds like an attempt to influence the results. 

I will await a reply. 

Tony Frackowiak 

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