[NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC

Mike Mueller mups53 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 11 14:05:01 AKST 2017 

Onda
 CPLR
 Jason
 Andrew
 Gernot
Lassi
Kaiser
 Joseph
 AC Glenn
 final scores in a horrendous wind condition.
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On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Friday – Semi Finals
>
> No birthdays here today.  We’re cake-less.  Sans cake.  No mas torta.  And
> sadness ensued.
>
> There have been many posts already today on the NSRCA list and else where
> on facebook, but if you were living in a pattern cave, the day was all
> about wind.  He who owned the wind, owned the day.
>
> Take pause, bow down, and kneel before the team that slayed the tempest,
> for at the end of the battle, it was team USA that has FOUR PILOTS IN THE
> FINALS!!
>
> Andrew Jesky – 3rd
> Jason Shulman – 5th
> Joseph Szczur – 7th
> AC Glenn – 10th
>
> Yesterday we crowned Joseph a 2 time Jr. World Champion.  Today we behold
> Team USA, 4 time Team World Champions!!!  We are the only country with 2
> finalists…  3 finalists…wait, 4 finalists!   Have I mentioned that we have
> ALL 4 Pilots in the finals??  Sorry, but it’s really a very big deal.
>
> So let’s back up.  8:15am Andrew is first to up to fly.  A poor draw to be
> sure, and therefore often a throw away flight.  The wind was already
> stiffer than yesterdays, and angling more in your face.  Andrew did what
> Andrew does so well under pressure and laid down a high bar to be beat.
> There’s no need to describe the flight (going forward just assume that all
> flights by all US pilots had adjectives like “Solid”, “Flawless”,
> “Impressive”, “Stellar” and other various glowing praise associated with
> them).  Andrew scored a 511 raw score, but we had no idea where that might
> end up later in the day.  Pilot after pilot, that score proved to be a
> strong one.  Eventually CPLR put up a 524, and Onda a 520 to jump ahead,
> but the wind was really proving to be the better of many.
>
> This was not your typical strong wind day at the Nats.  Nor was it even
> the horrendous winds that we dealt with on Finals day in South Africa.
> This was a steady, cold, storm force wind that was exceeding 20mph steadily
> and gusting far worse at ground level, with reports putting the winds 500m
> up to be another 10mph faster.  I assure you, it was wind we would not fly
> ANY contest at home in.  Even the Nats.
>
> All of our guys flew extremely well, but it’s Jason and Joseph that I want
> to give props to for the first round.  I’m a bit biased, but I thought
> Jason flew the best flight of the line.  Take all of the previously
> aforementioned adjectives and add distinct geometry and a graceful and
> controlled pace.  While I felt it was the best flight I’d seen from him
> this week, and clearly the best of the day thus far (did I mention my
> bias?), the judges didn’t actually consult me and he only scored in the
> 490’s.
>
> As for Joseph’s flight, I’ll simply say the kid can fly.  I think he
> surprised us all.  Yeah, he’s a good flyer, Jr. World Champ yada yada, but
> he’s just a junior.  Can’t hang with the big boys.  But putting up a 485
> flying F in a 20+mph crosswind at the WC says otherwise.  He’s a 3 time
> veteran of this type of competition and that experience shows.
>
> As the morning wore on, the winds increased and transitioned from being
> simply a severe challenge, to an exercise in survival, with serious
> concerns for safety.   The flights themselves were not at risk, after all
> these are the best pilots in the world.  But the take offs and landings
> were becoming treacherous not only to the aircraft, but to those in and
> around the flight line area.   The speed and turbulence of the air made the
> last 3 feet above the ground an exercise in patience, throttle control and
> focus.  All combined with just a little luck.
>
> Our second round, which is round 5 on the standings that you’ve likely
> seen (standings are attached as a photo) moved us to flight line A and what
> we thought was a kinder, gentler panel of judges. Silly Americans…    More
> good flights, more good, but not great scores. We were really hoping to
> truly set the bar somewhere, but it didn’t happen.  I haven’t mentioned AC,
> but he was simply a factory of consistency all week long with today not
> being an exception.  Quality flight after quality flight.  No, I’m afraid
> the flight of the day on line A clearly belonged to Tetsuo Onda from
> Japan.  There’s really nothing to describe, it was just amazing to watch.
>
> We had quite a long wait to finally see the outcome of all the scores.
> TBL is used on every round at the WC’s so even though you have a lot of raw
> scores to compare, things change a LOT once TBL is run.  The wind, safety,
> current FAI rules regarding wind, and whether or not we would fly the
> finals tomorrow were the general topics of discussion overheard during our
> impatient wait.  That, and about 30 levels of Candy Crush.
>
> I’ll fast forward to the Team manager’s meeting held at 6pm to discuss the
> finals, pick the flight orders and generate the unknown sequences.  The
> highlights are pretty easy.  First we got a bit lost finding the host
> hotel, but that aside, I’ve attached the flight order, and both unknowns.
> Flight orders are drawn at random just like the Semi’s.  No two pilots from
> the same team can be back to back, so there was a little shuffling to do
> since ALL 4 TEAM USA PILOTS ARE IN THE FINALS!!!  BOOOYAHH!!!  Sorry…
> We are up 1st, 3rd, 5th and 9th in the first round.
>
> The unknowns are now computer generated on the fly, so that’s no longer a
> process worth mentioning.
>
> As of now, the finals are ON.  We will re-evaluate in the morning, but the
> jury decided to follow the sporting code to the letter to avoid any chance
> of protest. Which means we will fly unless either A) the winds exceed 12m/s
> for longer than 60 seconds, which will force a delay. Or B) all the team
> managers collectively, and unanimously agree that it is unsafe to fly.
> Both of those are difficult barriers to stopping a WC contest.  I think we
> will likely fly all 4 rounds tomorrow and hope against hope that everyone
> goes home with unbroken airplanes.
>
> I’m going to wrap this up tonight as it’s getting late.  This will be my
> last post from here in Argentina.  Tomorrow we will of course try to post
> the final scores and update info as the day progresses, but with the awards
> banquet in the evening, and a mad rush in the morning to crate aircraft,
> rebolt seats into vans, pack and drive 5 hours to B.A. and hope that
> customs and US TSA treat us kindly, there won’t be time to write an update.
>    I do plan to write something after I get home, simply to round out the
> trip.  There are a lot of things Argentine that haven’t been mentioned.
> Flocks of parakeets, storks flying overhead, horses almost as numerous as
> dogs, sand roads, police everywhere, amazing hospitality (despite our
> abysmal Spanish), crazy ass drivers, and on and on.  I’ll try to get to it.
>    Until then…
>
> Photos!
>
> - Hanging out waiting for the first flights to start.  Kevin, Linda, Linda
> with a hint of Andrew in the background stick plane-ing his flight.
> - Sleeping porta potties.  Strong winds are a like porta potty lullabyes.
> Puts them right out.  Thankfully no one was in them when they crashed. It’s
> the best visual indicator of the severity of the winds we’re in.
> - Jayson, Andrew, Gernot, Ola and Gernot’s dad… all impatiently waiting
> for the final results.
> -       Joseph and Don after their last semi-final flight
> - Final Results!
> - WC Central (figured I’d take a photo of it since we stared at it for 2
> hours today waiting.
> - A really poor picture of the countryside.  Looked much better in
> person.  The land here is flatter than the sea.  I’m thinking you could see
> brazil from here save for the curvature of the earth.
> - Our last trip to the Ice Cream store (an every evening event). Our
> beloved Crema host standing next to Derek second from the left, and his
> niece who thankfully speaks a little English in the front right.
> - Finals Meeting.  All the finalists and their Team managers
> - Final’s flight order
> - Unknown 1
> - Unknown 2
> - Tomorrows weather…  Wind speeds are in Km/h
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 4:48 PM Phil via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> That "slip" still doesn't undo the fact that ALL FOUR are in the top 10!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> *Phil Spelt, AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member SPA L-18, Board Member
>> Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c*
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
>> org>
>> *To: *"Derek Koopowitz" <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>, "General pattern
>> discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 4:19:09 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>
>> Whoops!  Sorry. My eye slipped on crossing the photo
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2017 1:01:59 PM
>> *To:* Peter Vogel; General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>
>> Unfortunately he didn't... you're looking at Onda's score.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: Image]
>>>
>>> Check it out folks!  AJ beat CPLR in round 6 (barely, but still!).  Way
>>> to go AC, Joe, Jas and AJ!!!
>>>
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>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>>> behalf of Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2017 11:42:25 AM
>>> *To:* Atwood, Mark; General pattern discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> If the finals are canceled, will they have then the following day, or go
>>> with the semi standings ??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew E Finley
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>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: "Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
>>> org>
>>> Date: 11/10/17 2:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Stuart Chale <schale1 at outlook.com>, General pattern discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s hard to even describe the wind these guys flew in today.  Nothing
>>> any of them have ever flown in before in any event, Nats, Tucson, South
>>> Africa, anywhere.  The biggest surprise to us all was how well the contra
>>> set-ups persevered.
>>>
>>> Pilot and TM meeting tonight at 6pm for unknowns and flight order.  That
>>> said, there is a better than average chance that the finals will be
>>> cancelled.  Winds tomorrow are expected to be even more aggressive and
>>> 90deg crosswind.
>>>
>>> It’s doubtful that they will make that call before they see what the
>>> reality is in the morning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure if this will work but check out this video of a landing at the
>>> WC
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/arturomarino.cellini/videos/10214457828389502/
>>>
>>> If the link doesn't work look for the Facebook Argentina site
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2017 1:37 PM, mups53 via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>>>
>>> Way too awesome
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>>> Date: 11/10/17 12:29 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Mike Mueller <mups53 at gmail.com> <mups53 at gmail.com>, General pattern
>>> discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Cc: Vicente Bortone <vincebrc at gmail.com> <vincebrc at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>
>>> All four in!!!
>>>
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Mike Mueller via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This from my friend who is there about today.
>>>  Sounds very promising:
>>>  Hi Mike
>>>
>>> Hope all is well with you guys!
>>>
>>> The semis are done here in Argentina - awaiting the results - but I
>>> would guess that 3 and maybe all 4 Americans are in the finals :-)
>>>
>>> Really, Andrew J and Jason flew incredibly well today in wind right at
>>> the FAI limit.... Andrew, in particular, was just incredible.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly despite the wind, the YS’s have not really dominated, but
>>> certainly have not been a disadvantage.
>>>
>>> Even in the wind, lots of biplanes and lots of contras - perhaps not
>>> with the same dominance as in Europe.
>>>
>>> The stand out models in the wind for me was the Zonda, and also
>>> Wolfgang’s monoplane flown by Reto Schumacher....
>>>
>>> Tomorrow’s forecast is as windy as today, so will make for an
>>> interesting (but scrappy) finals....
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is 26.84 mph.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 9:02 AM Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 12 meters/second sustained for 60 seconds pauses the contest
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> on behalf of Jeff Worsham via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 10, 2017 7:00:45 AM
>>>>> *To:* Jon Bruml; General pattern discussion; Vicente Bortone; George
>>>>> Kennie
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>>>
>>>>> Australian Facebook post 1hr ago shows Anemometer reading 13.8 m/sec.
>>>>> That’s 30.87 mph. Absolutely insane!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> on behalf of Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> *Reply-To: *Jon Bruml <jon at techstyles.com>, General pattern
>>>>> discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> *Date: *Friday, November 10, 2017 at 7:29 AM
>>>>> *To: *Vicente Bortone <vincebrc at gmail.com>, General pattern
>>>>> discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>, George Kennie <
>>>>> geobet4evr at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go Team USA
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks Mark !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Bruml
>>>>>
>>>>> Techstyles
>>>>>
>>>>> www.techstyles.com
>>>>>
>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>> From: Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 4:47 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Latest update from the WC
>>>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>,
>>>>> George Kennie <geobet4evr at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HAPPY BIRTHDAY Derek Emmett!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Thursday – Round 4   FINALLY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously on How the WC’s turn:  Kevin got cake, Joseph flew well,
>>>>> CPLR got high scores, wind blue, rain fell, dogs barked.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tonights Episode: Team USA flying strong!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have Blue Sky!!! I even have a photo to prove it!   I think the
>>>>> organizers are finally learning what the weather is like here in
>>>>> Argentina.  From 5am – 9am it’s beautiful!  Then it turns to ... well, it
>>>>> turns bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We started earlier than normal in an effort to finish up the final
>>>>> round of the preliminaries and still leave time for some practice prior to
>>>>> the Semi-Finals.   First flights were at 7:45 with Demo flights starting at
>>>>> 7:15.   It was a pretty sky with puffy clouds.  But don’t get too attached
>>>>> to any cloud in particular because if you blinked, it was GONE.  Winds
>>>>> aloft were ripping, and the winds on the ground were doing their best to
>>>>> keep up.  Winds were from the WSW which is a new direction for us, left to
>>>>> right pushing in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AC and Andrew are both fans of the early morning practice flight,
>>>>> which with an early start to the contest means a über early trip to go
>>>>> practice.  AC and Chuck were on the road at 5:30am and Andrew not long
>>>>> after.  Minor issue though, if you recall from yesterday, we had major rain
>>>>> storms and the practice site was a mud bath.  One of the vans got stuck and
>>>>> thankfully there are enough other knuckleheads that get up early to
>>>>> practice to help push them out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AC, Andrew and Jason all still needed to fly their final prelim round
>>>>> and like you’ve heard me say over and over…they all put up great flights.
>>>>> Scores though were sort of meh, and as I mentioned yesterday, CPLR scored a
>>>>> 505 on his flight, so all but a few people dropped this final round as a
>>>>> throw away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We finished up round 4 by 11:50, but scores weren’t going to be posted
>>>>> until 3pm, so it was off to the practice field once again for a few rounds
>>>>> of F-17.  By now the winds were quite strong,  ranging between 10-14m/s
>>>>> (approx. 20-28mph) pretty much straight down the runway.  It’s survival
>>>>> flying.  There was definite concern that flying in these high winds could
>>>>> end the contest for someone. On the rough and muddy grass field, anything
>>>>> shy of a good landing could mean ripping out gear or worse. The practice
>>>>> site was packed (see the photo of the vans…) as a lot of people “on the
>>>>> bubble” were anxiously putting up F flights in hopes of making the finals
>>>>> cut.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By now most of you have seen the results, but if not, check out the
>>>>> main WC home page for the preliminary results. The USA has ALL FOUR… let me
>>>>> repeat that,  ALL FOUR of our pilots currently in the top 10.  Jason – 4th,
>>>>> Andrew – 5th, Joseph – 9th, AC – 10th.  More over, with no other Junior
>>>>> making the cut for the Semi-Finals, Joseph has secured a repeat title of
>>>>> Jr. World Champion.  We’re all extremely proud of him, especially Don.  But
>>>>> he’s staying focused on the job ahead which is making the cut for the
>>>>> finals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve been watching all of these guys fly for many many years, and have
>>>>> the fun and honor to get to fly with them and compete with them on many
>>>>> occasions.  I’m always impressed by their precision, consistency, and most
>>>>> of all, their ability to handle the wind.  Today though I sat with the team
>>>>> from the UK, and several others groups, all of whom are here competing at
>>>>> this world championship level, and watching them marvel at our team’s
>>>>> ability to not only fly in this wind, but execute precision geometry,
>>>>> maintain pace and rhythm, hold their line and center maneuvers in Extreme
>>>>> wind.  It’s a pretty neat thing to be part of.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After returning from practice, I attended the Team Manager meeting at
>>>>> 6pm to find out the standings and draw the flight order for the Semi’s.
>>>>> The process is simple, 30 pilots (representing 15 countries) will fly 2
>>>>> rounds of F-17.  They put all the names in a hat and had each country (in
>>>>> alphabetical order) draw a name for each subsequent position.  Argentina
>>>>> went first and pulled Stephan Kaiser to lead things off and we went on from
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>
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