[NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests

Wed Jul 19 11:50:36 AKDT 2017

Rick,

He did say that one decent means they wouldn't fly F but I agree, I
wouldn't want to be "that guy" that said no when all the rest wanted to fly
F.

Scott

*Scott A. McHarg*
VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
Texas A&M University
PPL - ASEL
Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:34 PM, rixsweeney--- via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Then you can bet, not one Masters flyer will consider moving to FAI to fly
> P if they know a vote could force them to fly F.
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> *From: *Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion
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> *To: *DaveL322 <DaveL322 at comcast.net>; Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net>; General
> pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests
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> As a CD, I will not offer F to be flown unless everyone flying FAI agrees
> to flying it. Period! One decent, means no. That is the way it should be
> done on a local level.
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
> behalf of Earl Haury via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:35 AM
> *To:* DaveL322; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests
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> The options for F3A being discussed are available to the CD for any
> contest, decide what the local folks want and announce it beforehand as per
> the rules. No reason to “legislate” the F sequence away, I suspect that the
> F3A pilots in the Gulf Coast D6 region (average of 6 for 12 contests, high
> of 8 & low of 3) would rather fly all F. Certainly a larger range of scores
> and easier to differentiate. For those uncomfortable with taking on F (real
> skill builder), then Masters is probably best for them – whatever sequence
> they hammer out.
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> It wasn’t that long ago that Masters was a huge class. Where’d everyone
> go? Life changes? Dissatisfied with sequences? Pretty sure very few moved
> to F3A which had a much shorter P sequence than Masters and F wasn’t all
> that tough.
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> BTW – humble brag – my son Lester made the 2018 F2D WC Team last weekend.
> Interesting that those folks have 32 entries in their TS.
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> Earl
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> *From:* DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:05 PM
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> *To:* rixsweeney at gmail.com ; General pattern discussion
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> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests
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> Allow F as an option for rounds 5 and 6 and you get the best of both
> worlds with the benefit of making it easier to separate top F3A flyers when
> more than one is at a local contest, which is not uncommon in some parts of
> the US.
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> Regards,
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> Dave
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: rixsweeney--- via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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> Date: 7/19/17 11:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
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> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Removing FAI F from local contests
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> Perhaps removing FAI F from local contests would solve a few issues
> discussed on this list:
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>    1. Current Masters flyers who are advocating for the Masters schedules
>    to adopt FAI P as the Masters schedule could just move up and fly FAI
>    knowing they will not be required to fly the F pattern. That makes them
>    happy.
>    2. Current Masters flyers who think adopting FAI P is a bad idea can
>    rest easy as nbr #1 above takes FAI P for Masters off the table.
>    3. Current FAI flyers who have no one to compete against at local
>    contests because of F,  will now have a few competitors that will
>    undoubtedly move up.
>    4. If even one or two Masters flyers move up it will ease the judging
>    issue.
>    5. If FAI guys that want to get some F practice for the NATS or
>    Worlds, they can accomplish that at the practice field, and or another
>    option…A CD could optionally add some F demo flights during a contest and
>    have Masters and FAI guys judge and score them. These would be demos and
>    would not count as a contest flight but allows FAI F guys to get some
>    judging exposure. I have no doubt some of the FAI guys who don’t fly F
>    would be willing to Judge the one or two FAI F guys or even a few Masters
>    flyers. These F demo flights could be flown at days end on either day or
>    however a CD wants to fit them in. Lunch break perhaps.
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> I know first hand that a few FAI guys insist on flying F at local contests
> so they get judging exposure and as a result they have no one to play
> with.
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> For this to work, all CD’s in all districts would need to adopt removing F
> from all local events. I am seeing many benefits to flying P only, locally.
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