[NSRCA-discussion] New sequences

[rixsweeney at gmail.com]

I have not flown the whole schedule yet but picked a few I thought I would like flying and a few I thought would be the most diffacult. 


- The Double I Knife edge is a good Masters maneuver I like flying it. Advanced guys moving up will have enough basic skills to eventually fly this one well. 
- ½ loop with integrated ½ roll. Very similar to what we fly now with the centered loop ½ roll integrated, should be fine and something different. A good introduction to integrated loops for advanced guys.
- ½ square with snap roll in down track. Will probably be intimidating to advanced flyers moving up, snapping while looking at bottom of plane on a down line but not a show stopper.
- Golf ball with ¾ rolls knife edge loop.  You will need GOLD balls to complete ¾ roll on backside of this one from knife-edge on a 45 down line. I never did try it, I qtr rolled out. Don’t like this one at all, much to diffacult and dangerous for a first season masters flyer. Its only a K4 and the Double I knife edge is a K5?.   ¼ rolls to knife edge on this one seems more appropriate and more in line with upcoming Advanced flyers and still challenging for the veteran masters flyers. I can imagine a lot of centering issues with this one.
- Two slows rolls opposite. Good Masters maneuver. I like flying it. The current combo helped in learning slow rolling to the left but its going to be a real challenge for advanced guys but nothing they cant handle with practice as they have built skills in Advanced to assist.
- Loop integrated roll top 180. Does not seem to be as diffacult as I first thought but way to much for the Advanced guys moving up. They have not had any opportunity to build skill sets needed to prepare them for a full roll integrated. If ya want to throw integrated maneuvers at advanced guys moving to Masters there should be some basic integrated elements in the Advanced class. Perhaps an outside loop here with half roll integrated at the top to change things up a bit from what we do now. 

I will need to work on getting through the whole sequence to get a feel for the flow, but everything else seems straight forward.  Overall not real crazy in love with this schedule and I can see an advanced guy moving up next year to have some real issues with it. I suspect most will have regretted moving up.     

Rick Sweeney

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From: Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 11:10 AM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] New sequences

Hey All, 

I was able to fly both the proposed Masters and Advanced sequences this weekend with Chuck Edwards.  All in all good, with a few thoughts.

Masters -  

I like it. Flows reasonably well.  Some fun challenges, but nothing daunting.  The two rolls opposite is easily the prettiest maneuver in the schedule, and it will separate anyone not comfortable rolling both ways.  

One concern - The only sticky maneuver I thought is the 1 1/4, KE flight, 1 1/4.   It’s simply too long to make look pretty, and if it’s a strong head wind, will really look like crap.  You’re basically trying to fit 2 1/2 rolls AND sustained KE flight on a downwind leg and stay in the box, thus forcing somewhat rapid rolls which simply look rushed.  

I would strongly suggest changing it to 3/4 roll, KE, 3/4 roll.   Same difficulty really, but a full roll shorter and thus allows for a more graceful, controlled roll rate.

Total Mah draw in modest wind (7-9kt cross) was 3580mah  without paying particular attention to throttle management, given that it was the first time through the sequence.  Quite a bit less time and power than the current schedule.


Advanced.  
It’s also nice, with one major concern.  The Cobra.  It’s not as conventional as I think is expected, and I feel it’s too much for an advanced flyer just learning to snap their airplane (my opinion).  You’re already a bit rushed going into is, and you’re pushing in from Inverted.  No biggie.  Half roll up, over the top and back down on a 45.  THEN you have a single snap on the 45 deg DOWN line.  

I can tell you from personal experience and a re-kitted Spark (St. Clairsville flying F-11 with a 1 1/2 snap down on the cobra) that a snap like this WILL crash an airplane.  You’re heading down, not all that high to begin with, and if you badly miss the snap and lose your orientation, you’re likely on low throttle and low airspeed and will proceed to stall/snap it into the ground in your attempt to recover.    I’d much rather see a snap on the UP leg of the cobra.  It would still be rushed, but FAR more airplane and pilot friendly.  

Other than that, is has all the traditional challenges.     Power was very low as I flew the schedule with only 2800mah (also a 7-9kt crosswind).  

My $0.02 worth with 1 time through Advanced and twice through Masters.  So limited testing.  Your mileage may vary.

Hope to see a bunch of you in Arkansas!   

-Mark
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