[NSRCA-discussion] Competition

[Robert Campbell]

Cody will probably be back once he graduates college and gets established
in life.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 5:42 PM, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Our pattern group mentored 3 young men over the years and each was very
> successful.    And then ======= they discovered cars and girls, graduated
> from HS and had to get a life.   I hope they come back at some point.
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:33 PM
> *To:* 'Atwood, Mark'; 'General pattern discussion'; 'Monte Richard'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition
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> I’m not going offer any solutions as I don’t believe there is one or even
> a few of the many solutions offered so far that are going to make a
> difference but it certainly doesn’t hurt to try some of them.
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> I’m going to ask another questions; that demonstrates how difficult the
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> How many father/son teams are out there?  I know a few but my sense is it
> is statistically small.
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> We can’t even get our own sons to join us on a consistent basis.
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> This just demonstrates how tough it is to recruit new blood.
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> Many of the father/son teams I know aren’t at the majority of contests and
> I’m not being critical here.
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> Many are going to school or are participating in other activities which,
> if I were them, I would be doing those other things too.
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> Perhaps in the future, our children will re-enter the competition field
> after college or high school but that decision will depend on a whole host
> of issues already discussed.
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> Food for thought.
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> Ron Hansen
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *Atwood, Mark
> via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* Monte Richard; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Competition
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> Our best contests have huge social components, typically in the form of a
> WAY too much good food.   Pretty sure the only reason Anthony ever came to
> St. Clairsville was for the saturday lunch.
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> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Monte Richard via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Something that was briefly mentioned in I think one post on the subject of
> improving participation in pattern competitions. The social aspect.
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> From reading thru the many post, a common theme seems to be the cost of
> two day events, travel, motels, etc to attend an event especially if your
> following the circuit to fairly far away events.
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> Many clubs have lost the social aspect of the competition. Most are
> charging $35 to $40 entry fees. Yet what does the competitor get for his
> entry fee and vast amount he spends on gas, motels, and travel to the
> event? One free hamburger, chip, and a drink. A picture trophy framed in a
> dollar store frame. There are some clubs that offer a better meal, maybe a
> bar-b-que chicken dinner, or better trophies. Those usually have a little
> better attendance.
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> When pattern was hot and heavily participated in, most of the clubs had a
> Saturday night banquet. It was something for the money you spent to attend
> an event, weather you were a contender or a not so competitive pilot. You
> felt like you received something for your entry fee even if it wasn’t a
> trophy. Is also gave the pattern community a chance to come together for a
> fun evening, a chance to meet new friends, and enjoy some time with old
> friends. Even clubs that didn’t put on a banquet, at least picked a
> restaurant near the field that could handle a crowd, and announced to the
> competitors that we would all meet there for dinner and fellowship. Don’t
> underestimate the value of this fellowship, it’s the most important part of
> competition to many modelers who may never reside at the top of the
> classes. Old stories and tall tales reign and make for a very enjoyable and
> memorable evening.
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> Our sport has lost it’s heart, and everyone knows you spend your money
> where your heart is.
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> Adding classes puts a burden of added trophies and expensed on the
> competition. Sportsman was designed as an entry level event. When we
> decided to add a district championship for the class, we inadvertently
> added the enticement to stay in Sportsman. So instead of only staying a
> season or two in sportsman and then moving up, we now have people camping
> out in sportsman to get a district championship. That is a large part of
> why newcomers see 2M pattern planes and 3 or 4 year veterans in Sportsman
> and feel they can’t compete. The beginning class needs to be just that, a
> beginning class to get a taste, then get in the game. Once you move up to a
> 2M pattern plane, your ready to move to Intermediate and continue your
> learning experience. Keep sportsman for the newbies with the sport planes.
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> Someone posted a good idea, if you want to promote pattern, then work with
> your club to put on a one day club contest three or four times a year, just
> for your club members. Have a bar-b-que at the field and promote it as a
> come out, try a simple pattern and get coached by experienced pattern
> pilots to improve your flying and win bragging rights or simple prizes. No
> pressure event for fun to offer a taste of what pattern can do to improve
> your flying. In the process a few will get the bug. Others won’t, but
> they’ll have a new appreciation for what pattern is about. Invite a pattern
> pilot from neighboring clubs to come help put it on, coach or judge. Give
> helping judging hints to the pilots, and see that they have an enjoyable
> day.
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> Monte
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