[NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
Stuart Chale
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Wed Sep 7 12:39:10 AKDT 2016
Love that video. Just used portions of it for a Pattern talk at a local club. Contrasting the flying style to current practice. If any of you have not seen the video, take a look on You tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jogGq_L320
The clothing worn, the hair styles :) The patterns flown. Most of the pilots didn't seem to use throttle control back then either. I love when the best pilots in the world stand behind their plane for takeoff and are then lead back to stand in front of the judges.
And I've said it before and I'll say it again. Yes some of the rolling maneuvers flying from horizon to horizon at mach 1 were really fun to fly and watch when done well, but if anyone thinks that our ballistic pattern planes flew better than what we fly now...................
Stuart
On 9/7/2016 2:46 PM, Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
John, et al:
I made that movie of the 71 RCWC event and I remember all the “spectators” and young folks that were there “marveling” at the planes and the contestants, talking with them, guys like Ron Chidgey, Whitley, Kraft and many others from around the world….THIS IMPRESSED MANY YOUTH THAT WERE THERE….in fact one of those youth is our district 3 VP, Mark Radcliff who to this day credits that event for launching him into RC and eventually competition…what better an example of what seems to be missing at contests today is PR, inviting the public, making the sport more visible and understandable….getting out to the community by the club members who are putting on the event….certainly not an easy task but just a thought from this old retired “turn around pattern lover”…
Don’t give up…..”step up”…..
Jay Gerber
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I will address the “turnaround sucks” thought from my perspective. Way back when I had given up on ballistic pattern. Did not do anything for me anymore. Then we got turnaround and I got back into it. Why and what was the result of turnaround? First of all turnaround challenged your flying skills and over time it has elevated the skills of all the participants. There was a youtube video going around of the world championships in Doylestown PA back in the 71 I think that most probably watched. Old time planes and maneuvers that we now do in Intermediate. The first few F3A sequenced in turnaround were about what the advanced guys are flying today. Had we stuck with ballistic pattern do now know where we would be today but the one thing I am confident of is that the cost would still be high because as was pointed out by Dave an email are two ago people strive to get the best equipment available.
Yeah people are flying SPA and having fun. But look at the ages of the contestants and guess what?? Same as turnaround folks. Old guys reliving their youth. Nothing wrong with that but it’s not going to attract youth of today.
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Most pattern fliers know why pattern is declining but won't admit it...too much expense, too much time invested for practice and traveling, and in my opinion (and a lot of others) turnaround sucks !
Flying airplanes and competing is supposed to be fun...it used to be...still is in SPA !!
My entire SPA airplane ready to fly costs half what the engine in my 2 meter cost and most SPA contests are one day meets...no motels !!
Disclaimer: just my opinion !!
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On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Jas S <justanotherflyr at gmail.com<mailto:justanotherflyr at gmail.com>> wrote:
Isn't that like hearing a Masters pilot say the roll on the top of a loop shouldn't be in Masters lol. Love ya Gary
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
Sportsman isnt easy enough ????
Not sure how it could get more basic ..
But wat ever works lord knows we need something to attract new blood or bring old blood back...
G
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On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:
All,
This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD. FYI!
Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class!
Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever, it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will give the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun! Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and descriptions.
https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences
Scott A. McHarg
VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
Texas A&M University
PPL - ASEL
Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107
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