[NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics

Wed Sep 7 07:37:27 AKDT 2016

Randy,

So, the scale guys are hogging all the sponsors' prizes!

Rob

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Randy Forbus <Rforbus at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps, just trying to come up with some ideas, the last scale contest I
> flew in, the winners in sportscale, Ist place a new, airtronics radio a
> nice plaque , gift certificates, the other 2nd , 3rd etc. was scale kits
> really nice prizes for winning, something we should look into, and us I
> sold the airtronics radio lol.
>
>
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> *From:* Robert Campbell <rgc1701 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:57 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion; Randy Forbus
> *Cc:* Scott McHarg
>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
>
>
> Randy,
>
> I kinda like the idea, but entry fees would go through the roof.
>
> Rob
>
> On Sep 7, 2016 9:56 AM, "Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion" <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should start having cash prizes to increase attendance.
>>
>>
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>> *From:* NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on
>> behalf of Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:48 PM
>> *To:* tretas513 at yahoo.com; General pattern discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
>>
>> Mr. Lukas and I were having an offline conversation.  We were discussing
>> why the new guys aren't getting into pattern.  The question, essentially,
>> was what's the difference between those getting into other facets vs.
>> pattern.  This is my opinion and will be part of my article this month in
>> the K-Factor:
>>
>>
>>
>> The answer I'm about to give you makes it sound like all is lost.  I
>> don't believe it is (which is why we came up with the Club sequence) but
>> let's just stick to what we know and what is obvious from the assumption
>> standpoint for a moment.
>>
>> The answer to your question can be one word only or it can be a million
>> adjectives of the same word.  That word is "cool".  The kids coming up want
>> instant gratification, want to be cool, want notoriety, want to be thought
>> of as the kid who can show off the best.  You simply can't do that with
>> pattern.  Have you watched the fingers of these kids that fly 3D at Joe
>> Nall or IRCHA?  They're slamming sticks.  Then, watch the planes /
>> helicopters and see how much of the stick movement actually equates to
>> control over the aircraft.  Half of the time is spent simply recovering
>> from mistakes.  :)
>>
>> For some reason, the world has changed into a Social Media frenzy.  Kids
>> feel like they're missing out if we as parents threaten to take away their
>> phones as punishment.  Kids don't need to go outside to talk to friends
>> because they can do it on the couch with their phones.  They want instant
>> gratification and instant knowledge.  Most of the time, their friends know
>> what's going on before other people at the event know because of this.
>>
>> Pattern is nothing like this mentality at all.  Pattern takes a lot of
>> practice (as you know) and patience and set up and checking to make sure
>> everything is perfect.  Practicing is boring unless you're doing it.
>> There's no "wow factor".  In my opinion, THIS is what we're battling.  In
>> pattern, you actually have to fly the aircraft perfectly.  There's no gyro
>> to make you look better (Quads, Helicopters and Drones), there's not that
>> much of an adrenaline rush (until you're in front of the judges) and
>> there's no screen to stare at like in FPV racing.  Pattern is an art and it
>> takes that special person, the guy that wants to be artistic, to be a
>> pattern pilot.  Our costs are high for the best of the best which all of
>> these kids want.  They don't want a 1980 Super Kaos to learn the skills
>> required.  In almost all other facets, you can have quite good equipment,
>> that is accepted by their peers, for a lot less than what it would take to
>> have a "not bottom of the line" pattern plane.
>>
>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>> Texas A&M University
>> PPL - ASEL
>> Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:40 AM, tretas513--- via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Most pattern fliers know why pattern is declining but won't admit
>>> it...too much expense,  too much time invested for practice and traveling,
>>> and in my opinion (and a lot of others) turnaround sucks !
>>> Flying airplanes and competing is supposed to be fun...it used to
>>> be...still is in SPA !!
>>> My entire SPA airplane ready to fly costs half what the engine in my 2
>>> meter cost and most SPA contests are one day meets...no motels !!
>>> Disclaimer: just my opinion !!
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>>
>>> ------ Original message------
>>> *From: *Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion
>>> *Date: *Wed, Sep 7, 2016 8:40 AM
>>> *To: *Jas S;
>>> *Cc: *General pattern discussion;
>>> *Subject:*Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
>>>
>>> 😎
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Jas S <justanotherflyr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Isn't that like hearing a Masters pilot say the roll on the top of a
>>> loop shouldn't be in Masters lol. Love ya Gary
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion <
>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sportsman isnt easy enough ????
>>>>
>>>> Not sure how it could get more basic ..
>>>>
>>>> But wat ever works lord knows we need something to attract new blood or
>>>> bring old blood back...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD.  FYI!
>>>>
>>>> Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class!
>>>>
>>>> Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever,
>>>> it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good
>>>> question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the
>>>> NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could
>>>> offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type
>>>> of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It
>>>> will give the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type
>>>> sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand
>>>> them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest
>>>> next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or
>>>> four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I
>>>> could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club
>>>> flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to
>>>> “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those
>>>> older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun!
>>>> Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and
>>>> descriptions.
>>>>
>>>> https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Scott A. McHarg*
>>>> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
>>>> Texas A&M University
>>>> PPL - ASEL
>>>> Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107
>>>>
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