[NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics

Wed Sep 7 06:17:10 AKDT 2016

It's like panning for gold...you go through a lot of gravel to find a couple of nuggets...but if you don't look you will never find anything. 

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From: "Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
To: "Matthew Finley" <rcfin02 at msn.com>, "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:00:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics 

My guess is that the target population for this class/sequence will not be willing to invest any money in a new plane just to give it a shot and see if they like doing it. I think the mentality will be to use something they already have or not do it at all. 

Jeff Worsham 

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:34 PM 
To: Phil; General pattern discussion; jpavlick at idseng.com 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics 

Someone can go out and for under 300 bucks, buy an FMS F3A Olympus and be very competitive. I have two, and it will fly Sportsman, Intermediate, and Advanced with ease. They wouldn't have to put out a lot of money to get into it, and if they decide they don't want to continue, than they will have one of the nicest sport planes out there. 

Great concept, however I would also suggest that the coaches and or other pilots try and get them to do as many turn arounds as they are comfortable with to start getting used to it. However, it would only be a suggestion. 

Matthew E Finley 

Q.C.I Technical Assistant 

248-794-8487 mobile 

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From: Phil via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org > 

Date: 9/6/16 4:28 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: jpavlick at idseng.com , nsrca-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org > 

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics 

I guess it would be a threat for many. Here in Knoxville, when Dennis Hunt used to run his "Tennessee Turnaround" Contest, before AMA went to all turnaround, I did way better than others with the "Box" than I did in regular AMA contests without a box, compared to other pilots. 

I would suggest that instead of doing away with the box concept altogether, it could be "enforced" very loosely, and coaching could take the approach that a turn around maneuver is done "out there a little way" at each end, without emphasizing a well-defined box. As the pilot gains experience, and improves skills to move up into the "regular" turnaround introductory class, the box would become rigidly enforced. Minor deductions could be given for doing the turnaround maneuver too far out, as a teaching tool. That way, the pilots could get used to dong a turnaround maneuver in the general area where it would be done at the edge of a box. 

Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus 
AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member 
SPA L-18, Board Member 
Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c 

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It’s the whole “aerobatic box” concept that freaks out the average sport pilot. Believe me – it’s a BIG deal to them. 

John Pavlick 

Cell: 203-417-4971 

Integrated Development Services 

From: NSRCA-discussion [ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org ] On Behalf Of Whodaddy Whodaddy via NSRCA-discussion 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:47 PM 
To: Scott McHarg; General pattern discussion 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics 

Sportsman isnt easy enough ???? 

Not sure how it could get more basic .. 

But wat ever works lord knows we need something to attract new blood or bring old blood back... 

G 

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On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org > wrote: 

All, 

This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD. FYI! 

Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class! 

Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever, it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will gi ve the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun! Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and descriptions. 

https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences 

Scott A. McHarg 

VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot 

Texas A&M University 

PPL - ASEL 

Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107 

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