[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Re: F3A Championships circa 1971

Thu Jan 28 13:58:28 AKST 2016

Speaking of names and memories, how about “Bill Bennett” aka the “Tournament of Champions” and the amazing flying done in Vegas ……Chip doing knife edge rolling circles and Somenzini doing Waterfalls..upright and inverted on the deck……just to mention the tip of the iceberg on precision flying without all the sophistication in planes and electronics that are available today……If anyone is interested I never made a full production out of the TOC but AMA has lots of silent footage that I shot at those events…thanks to Mark Radcliff for getting much of it from me delivered to the AMA library.

Jay

From: Patrick Harris [mailto:harris7148 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:15 PM
To: Jay Gerber; General pattern discussion
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Re: F3A Championships circa 1971

Here are a couple of other names from the past for you guys:

Doc Brooks and Steve Ellison

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

Wow….names from the past super flying days…..Gary…so nice to hear from all the folks I bumped into along the way…….thanks for the update and info as well a great New Year to all……Jay

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HELLO JAY:  THE BEST RECALL I HAVE  FOR THE PLANE IS A KWIK-FLI 4 THAT NEVER REALLY MADE THE FLI SERIES I WAS APPOINTED A WARRANTY SERVICE STATION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY  TO TALK TO A LOT OF THE STAFF . MARTY BARRY WAS BUILDING FOR KRAFT AND IN EARLY TALKS WITH HIM THAT FUSE WAS A SOLID BLOCK AND WAS HOLLOWED OUT.  PHIL AND TONY (BONETTI) CAME TO THE ORANGE MASSACHUSETTS CONTEST IN 1972 AND PHIL HAD THE SAME AIRPLANE....IT WEIGHED  8 1/4 LBS. IT NEVER GOT ANY MORE ATTENTION. THAT YEAR PHIL, AND TONY, AND ERNIE HUBER BATTLED IT OUT. THAT YEAR  EXPERT HAD THE 4-LEAF CLOVER.....WOW LOOK OUT FOR THAT LAST SEGMENT!!.....HAPPY & HEALTHY  NEW YEAR

GARY GARABIAN

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From: Jay Gerber via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
To: 'Mike Murphy' <mmurphy178 at comcast.net>; 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2016 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Championships circa 1971

Mike and Phil, For some reason I’m thinking of “Super Fly”…..I flew with Phil I his 2 place Pitts 2B while his pilot flew his full scale design, the Super Fly….In my movie, Marvelous Miniatures, Phil flies his RC Super Fly, his pilot flies his full scale Super Fly, both planes do rolls then Phil lands the model, immediately you see the full scale land and Phil gets out of the cockpit…..etc……that movie has folks like Maynard Hill demonstrating his static electricity autopilot…..lots of stuff in that one which is 45 minutes long…full production.

I too have a couple of working Kraft Gold Medal radios around…they did a great job back in that day.

Jay

From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?> ] On Behalf Of Mike Murphy via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:48 PM
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Phil Krafts plane looks like a Kwik Fly 3 or 4. 

Mike Murphy

On January 28, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

I just made time to watch the vid about the '71 WC!  What an era that was.  Jon commented about flying those planes -- well, we fly just those planes in the Senior Pattern Association.  Despite the bad image we have among you NSRCA guys, we are now enforcing the to-plan building of our planes, and only allow 4-stroke engines and computer radios for convenience and as a nod to "progress". I'm not advertising for SPA, just sayin'...

My comment earlier was those guys didn't have computer mixing to trim their planes with (when someone commented on Strt Inv. Flight as a maneuver).  I still have a Kraft 6-channel '83 Series radio with synthesized channel selection that has been narrow-banded (by KMI) , so I could use it -- but I won't.  ;-{)  It uses the 3-lead battery pack, so I'd have to build a new pack for it before I could fly it.  Anyway, first 60-degree day (next Monday, here in TN) I plan to go out and pretend to be Ron or Jim. lol

I couldn't recognize what Phil K was flying in Doylestown -- what was his plane?

Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus
AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member
SPA L-18, Board Member
(865) 435-1476v  (865) 604-0541c

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Thanks for this Scott, Mike, and the guy who made this, Jay Gerber.
I went to that WC with my Dad as a spectator. Amazing to see Jim Whitley, Phil Kraft, and Ron Chidgey at their prime. I remember Doc Edwards, Team Manager, as a super nice guy.
The thing I remember most  from that WC in those days of ballistic pattern was that the Europeans had taken to throttling back on the downline of loops, etc. Not many people were doing that at the time. Most Americans kept full bore all the way around.
As to the simplicity of the sequence, try flying a plane of that period. Limited power, fairly high wing loadings, and fairly short coupled tails made them a handful.
I noticed also that virtually none of the radio equipment manufacturers that I saw in the film are around today. Kinda sad.
Amazing film.

Jon

On Jan 27, 2016 11:42 AM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Here's a video that Mike Mueller posted on Facebook and was produced by our own Jay Gerber.  If you have some time, it's a "swell" video about our past and origins.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jogGq_L320
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> Scott
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>
> Scott A. McHarg
> VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot
> Texas A&M University
> PPL - ASEL
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