[NSRCA-discussion] F3P Team Wrapup

[Jon Lowe]

As I said in the article, FAI uses rankings a year old, so they didn't use 2014 rankings, they used 2013. NSRCA and AMA only submitted a list for F3A in 2013 as we hadn't had any official F3P contests in the US until 2014. FAI chooses to look at F3A and F3P as one list, so they used what we submitted in 2013 for F3A as the list for the recent F3P WC. The WC organizers are free to choose anyone on the list, not by country ranked order.

There was a somewhat heated exchange of email between AMA and FAI over this issue when I was still president. FAI evidently prevailed.

As I explained in my article, the timing of the lists submitted by the countries and when they are approved by the FAI CIAM is off from when they are needed by WC organizers. As a result, unless something changes, any list FAI and the organizers  use for a WC will always be over a year old. Further complicating the situation, and one that AMA stressed, was that  F3P WC judges are supposed to have judged a F3P event within the last 12 months. Apparently that was waived by FAI. Whether it was also waived for non-US judges or not, I don't know.

Fortunately, the 2013 NSRCA/AMA F3A list had fine judges on it, and I'm sure Derek represented us well.


Jon

On Thursday, April 16, 2015 Vicente Bortone <vincebrc at gmail.com> wrote:

Jon L., 


I am not sure and probalby you can explain.  Looks like the rankings and the actual USA judge we selected are not in tune.  As I recall,  you were ranked first at the F3P team selection.  I could be wrong as usual.  Probably this is the reason why Ron is asking the question. 


Thanks, 


Vicente "Vince" Bortone 


Vicente "Vince" Bortone 


On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote: 

NSRCA and AMA have considered them separate, and submitted them as such, but FAI to date does not, as explained in the Dec 2014 KFactor. 


On Apr 16, 2015 6:46 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote: 
> 
> Jon, 
> 
> Are f3p and f3a considered two diferent cases?   
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Vicente "Vince" Bortone.  
> 
> On Thursday, April 16, 2015, joncarter60 via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote: 
>> 
>> Ron - I will be doing an article on current judge rankings in an upcoming K-Factor.  
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Jon Carter 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message -------- 
>> From: Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
>> Date: 04/15/2015 9:11 PM (GMT-08:00) 
>> To: NSRCA < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3P Team Wrapup 
>> 
>> I haven’t seen the latest judge rankings.  Maybe I missed them too.    
>> 
>> If they were already published, can we see them again, please? 
>> 
>> Ron Van Putte 
>> 
>> > On Apr 15, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Jon Lowe < jonlowe at aol.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Ron, 
>> > I explained the selection process in the Dec 2014 KFactor.  I believe all of the country  judges are on the organizers site for the F3P WCs. 
>> > 
>> > Jon 
>> > 
>> > On Apr 15, 2015 7:10 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Anybody know who the F3P WC  judges were and how they got selected? 
>> >> 
>> >> Ron 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion < nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Well, most know the F3P WC is over. The Team has been quiet (exhausted perhaps) since returning from Poland. It was a great learning experience and a great time meeting in person many internet friends. The competition level was extremely high, and the US Team finished a very respectable 5th out of 18 Teams.  Not too bad for the first appearance of the US on the F3P international stage. 
>> >>>  
>> >>> This coming Tuesday, 21 April, the Team will again be on the RCRN Airshow at 830 EDT for a post WC wrapup, and to announce the winners of the Giant Raffle. 
>> >>> http://www.rcradionetwork.com/schedule.php 
>> >>>  
>> >>> Raffle tickets will be available for purchase until Sunday at midnight (19 April). 
>> >>> http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/giant-raffle 
>> >>>  
>> >>> There are also a limited number of Team Tshirts remaining (only $20). 
>> >>> http://www.teamusaf3p.com/index.php/shirt-sales 
>> >>>  
>> >>> Thanks again for the support! 
>> >>>  
>> >>> Regards, 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Dave 
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