[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Rules

[Peter Vogel]

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/FAAInterpretiveRule.pdf

Bob Brown takes his usual non-productive aggressive stance:

“The FAA interpretive rule effectively negates Congress’
intentions, and is contrary to the law. Section 336(a) of the Public Law
states that, ‘the Federal
Aviation Administration may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding
a model
aircraft…’, this interpretive rule specifically addresses model aircraft,
effectively establishes rules that model aircraft were not previously
subject to and is in direct violation of the
congressional mandate in the 2012 FAA reauthorization bill.”





On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 5:53 PM, William Harden via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> What did the press release say?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 24, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Astropattern via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> AMA just posted a press release a few minutes ago.
>
> J
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jun 24, 2014, at 8:44 PM, John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/media/model_aircraft_spec_rule.pdf
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> Paragraph I.   last sentence.
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] *On Behalf Of *SilentAV8R via
> NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:05 PM
> *To:* Peter Vogel
> *Cc:* General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAA Rules
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>
> Can you tell me where that is?? The one and only pace the FAA ever
> mentioned 400 feet was in AC 91-57, which is no longer in effect based on
> their new "interpretation." Section 336 makes no mention of altitudes and
> based on what the FAA is saying is they will selectively apply specific
> sections of Part 1 in a case where enforcement action is required. They
> even said it would be a case by case basis.
>
> This thing is onerous enough without reading more into it than is there.
> AMA is crafting a response right now and I suspect that there will be more
> clarification coming shortly. One thing is certain, BLOS and FPV are dead
> as of yesterday. No exceptions or wiggle room there.
>
> Bill
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>
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> On 6/24/14, 4:57 PM, Peter Vogel wrote:
>
> There are several references to "rules for model aviation in the NAS
> already existing in section 91" (where the 400 foot rule exists) with the
> extended authorization of the modernization act to operations within 5
> miles of an airport.
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>
> Peter+
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> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:48 PM, SilentAV8R <Silentav8r at cox.net> wrote:
>
> I have read it twice now and I have not seen any specific mention of the
> "400-foot rule."  Can you cite the section of the document since it appears
> I missed it??
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>
>
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> On 6/24/14, 10:47 AM, Peter Vogel wrote:
>
> I read the full text of their interpretation of the "special rule for
> model aircraft" last night, I think the potential impact to pattern is
> their attempt to reinforce the 400 foot altitude limit (with no radius
> considerations for full scale airports) and extend the full scale airport
> notification radius to 5 miles (from 3 that was in 91-57) to require
> notification of model aircraft activity.
>
>
>
>
>
> Their absolute denial of goggle-based FPV (the pilot MUST always maintain
> LOS to their plane, it's not sufficient to have a spotter ready to take
> over) is going to create a lot of lawlessness in the FPV community but
> shouldn't impact pattern.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, SilentAV8R via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Actually, the FAA is now prohibiting FPV of any kind.
>
>
> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-is-trying-to-ban-first-person-view-drone-flights?trk_source=recommended
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>
> http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16474&cid=TW223
>
> http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/media/model_aircraft_spec_rule.pdf
>
> Bill
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> On 6/24/14, 7:27 AM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
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> Gentlemen,
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>
>
> This article was published in USA Today.  It doesn't really affect us as
> Pattern folk but it is something we should be cognizant of as well as be on
> the lookout at our local fields for.  The main thing is that the FAA is
> allowing FPV flight but not outside of visual range.  I've seen many many
> people take their quad copters far beyond visual range.  Big fines can
> happen for sure.
>
>
>
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> http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2014/06/23/faa-drones-rules-model-hobbyist-plane-pilots/11268597/
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