[NSRCA-discussion] FAA Rules

Peter Vogel vogel.peter at gmail.com
Tue Jun 24 10:33:02 AKDT 2014


The FAA interpretation is open for public comment, so it's not in force
yet.  I believe (expect!) the AMA will be rallying folks shortly...

Peter+


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Exactly. My GPS has shown over 800 feet at the top as well.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We routinely exceed 400 ft. as well.  I've tracked my plane via GPS and
>> altimeter and taken it up to where the masters guys take the top of the
>> box, it's slightly over 800 ft, which makes sense given the basic trig of a
>> 60 degree top of box at 150M.
>>
>> Peter+
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-discussion <
>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Add a zero to 400 for those guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Bob Kane <mkh39995 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So will the sailplane people . . .
>>>> On Jun 24, 2014 2:20 PM, "Patrick Harris via NSRCA-discussion" <
>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The IMAC boys will have a cow over the 400 foot rule.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I read the full text of their interpretation of the "special rule for
>>>>>> model aircraft" last night, I think the potential impact to pattern is
>>>>>> their attempt to reinforce the 400 foot altitude limit (with no radius
>>>>>> considerations for full scale airports) and extend the full scale airport
>>>>>> notification radius to 5 miles (from 3 that was in 91-57) to require
>>>>>> notification of model aircraft activity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their absolute denial of goggle-based FPV (the pilot MUST always
>>>>>> maintain LOS to their plane, it's not sufficient to have a spotter ready to
>>>>>> take over) is going to create a lot of lawlessness in the FPV community but
>>>>>> shouldn't impact pattern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, SilentAV8R via NSRCA-discussion <
>>>>>> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Actually, the FAA is now prohibiting FPV of any kind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-faa-is-trying-to-ban-first-person-view-drone-flights?trk_source=recommended
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=16474&cid=TW223
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/media/model_aircraft_spec_rule.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/24/14, 7:27 AM, Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Gentlemen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  This article was published in USA Today.  It doesn't really affect
>>>>>>> us as Pattern folk but it is something we should be cognizant of as well as
>>>>>>> be on the lookout at our local fields for.  The main thing is that the FAA
>>>>>>> is allowing FPV flight but not outside of visual range.  I've seen many
>>>>>>> many people take their quad copters far beyond visual range.  Big fines can
>>>>>>> happen for sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2014/06/23/faa-drones-rules-model-hobbyist-plane-pilots/11268597/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Sr. Systems Engineer - Infrastructure
>>>>>>>
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