[NSRCA-discussion] New advanced question

Mon Jul 28 15:04:44 AKDT 2014

Chuck - you are correct.  The proposed Advanced Triangle loop with base on top begins and ends at center. I believe this gives plenty of time for the 1/2 reverse cuban.

Sincerely,

Jon Carter
Chairman - NSRCA Judging Committee

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Chuck Hochhalter via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> </div><div>Date:07/28/2014  3:58 PM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Dale Olstinske <sanjosedale at gmail.com>,General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New advanced question </div><div>
</div>Pleae correct me I I'm wrong, but the pyramid starts at center... And the finishing radius ends at center .... Meaning you should be level at center which allows plenty of time to setup the reverse Cuban at 150 Meyer :) 

Chuck

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On Jul 28, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Don, I think you are correct, maybe Jon Carter can chime in on this. We have a Pyramid loop today on Masters, so the same question applies, where does it start and end?
> 
> There was a suggestion to make the triangle with the base at the bottom. While either way (as Don points out) the maneuver ends after a straight segment just past center, we chose this, to make a longer horizontal segment before the reverse cuban. The gives the impression of more time between maneuvers.
> 
> Dale
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: 7/27/2014 9:02:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New advanced question
> 
>> I think the new Masters is good. Busy but good. The integrated maneuvers are
>> a welcome change.
>> 
>> I haven't flown the Advanced but will next time to field. Looks like a big
>> jump from intermediate. The end point of the triangle may be a question for
>> the judging committee but to me it ends with a line after center. At least
>> half the base at the top has been drawn once on entry (the line segment
>> after center). Maneuver could be said to begin at center and end at center
>> or begin at some point before center to be determined by the exit radius at
>> the top. Either way, anything after a line at center would probably not be
>> part of the maneuver. So, the rev Cuban eight could start after the exit
>> line at center. Just my opinion.
>> 
>> Don
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jas via NSRCA-discussion
>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:34 AM
>> To: mwaustin54 at cox.net; General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New advanced question
>> 
>> I flew both the Advanced and Masters patterns yesterday for the guys in the
>> club that would be flying them. Masters seemed to flow well and I didn't get
>> much of a dirty look when I landed (took that as it wasn't going to be that
>> bad lol).
>> Advanced there was one part that threw the guys for a loop. The triangle at
>> the end of the pattern. The confusion was where does the Triangle exit/end
>> so the 1/2 Reverse Cuban 8 can begin?
>> Other than that the guys liked it, but maybe next weekend we'll all fly it
>> and see if they still like it lol.
>> 
>> Sent from my iP
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Mike Austin via NSRCA-discussion
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple of us have started flying the new sequence also. Be interesting
>> to hear more feedback before the sequence is final. Here are my impressions
>> after a few flights: It's a busy schedule with lots of inverted. It will be
>> a real challenge for new Intermediate flyers moving up. the sharks tooth
>> really crowds the Avalanche w/snap in my opinion. I'll have to trim the
>> cactus tops off to complete the hourglass in one piece.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> AZ Pattern Flyers
>>> 
>>> ---- Chuck Hochhalter via NSRCA-discussion
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>> It is a half roll then a reverse half roll. 2 of 2 reversed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it's maneuver 5, Sharks Tooth. Is it really 2pts reversed (4
>> half rolls) on the 45-down (2 one way and 2 the other)? Seems like a lot of
>> rolls on a 45 downline. Looking to fly it today to show it but want to make
>> sure I got it right.
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