[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed Advanced maneuvers

[John Ford]

Curious about what "average" equipment might be. 
Other than an exceptionally beaten, old, poorly-maintained, dusty, wrinkled, barely airworthy plane that one might find used, is it really possible to buy anything that isn't currently competitive? 

Would a venerable 9-year-old Integral or Abbra, with an original 8-year-old Pletty EVO, an APC prop, a Castle 80HV-V1 and a Zippy 20C battery qualify as an "average" plane nowadays?…but not still be able to get through the new Advanced in the hands of a pilot who can only practice one day a week?

I can't see how it couldn't…

John






On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Chuck Hochhalter via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> I disagree with average not being good enough to compete with. I have flown and competed successfully with avg equipment.
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> One can also purchased very good used equipment from top pilots that has "better than avg" stuff in it often.
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> Chuck
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Gary Switala via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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>>     My comments on the new  Advance schedule. I have 20 + flights on it with both other pattern guys and club members observing. The comments of the club members are:  “Why is everything upside down?“; “ makes no sense to me“; from the pattern guys  “ugly, damn ugly”;  and “WTF.”  From the flights I have put in I see that it’s not for the average Advanced flyer with an average plane with an average motor with an average battery set and with an average ESC . So looks like more $$$$ needs to be spent.  Some of the maneuvers are bad enough, but the way they are arranged the true difficulty in their relationship to proceeding and succeeding maneuvers are not taken into account.  As in # 5 to #6 and #9 to #10 to #11. I also do not understand why the figure 9 is only a K Factor of 1?? And why is the Shark’s tooth given the same K as the one we’re doing now. The new proposed one is an entirely different maneuver and considerably more difficult as proposed.  This is a descending maneuver at 45 degs. doing  2/2 reverse rolls  trying to slow the model down and hold a straight line and have enough speed and power to get through the outside Avalanche.  I also take exception with the way the Hourglass has been butchered. It would make more sense replacing it with the Standing Eight starting in the center with options as it would add some of the missing gracefulness needed.
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