[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Virtual Caller for iOS

Tue Dec 16 07:51:15 AKST 2014

Bring your Own Booze or Drugs ? 
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  From: Phil S. via NSRCA-discussion 
  To: Ronald Van Putte ; General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Virtual Caller for iOS

  Why wait 'til flying's over??  We had a notable pattern jockey a number of years ago who flew better with a beer...or 3.

  Anyway, I'm surprised no one in NSRCA-land knows what BOPOD stands for!

Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Secretary
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  On 12/15/2014 11:05 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion wrote: 
I will definitely agree with that!  Site 4 rocks with BOPOD, Victor Diaz' ribs and Van Putte's margaritas after the day's flying is over.

Ron

  On Dec 15, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Jeff and Claire via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

BOPOD is the man! (and one of many reasons you want to go to the NATS to fly or hang out at Site 4) 

Jeff Worsham

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From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:54 PM
To: Jon Lowe; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Virtual Caller for iOS

I WAS going to say that, but didn't because BOPOD is so sensitive.   Jon on the other hand is ..

Ron

    On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

If Doug (aka BOBOD), can figure it out, anyone can!

JonOn Dec 15, 2014 8:40 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
      Ask him what BOPOD stands for.

Ron Van Putte

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Date: December 15, 2014 at 8:16:15 PM CST
To: Lance <patterndude at tx.rr.com>, General pattern discussion 
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Virtual Caller for iOS
From: Doug Harvel via NSRCA-discussion 
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Reply-To: Doug Harvel <spa364 at gmail.com>, General pattern discussion 
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

Peter I have today downloaded the RC Caller on my iPhone, and I love 
it. In your demo you showed how to go back by tilting your 
transmitter. I will be using my iPhone with earphones and using the 
voice mode. To go back you used the tilting the transmitter. Guess I 
am just not smart enough to go back using voice. Can it be done by 
voice and if so how....going forward is even easy for me, just say 
NEXT and away I go.....Thanks .....Doug Harvel aka BOPOD

On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lance via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
          Ok this helps a lot . By "headphone button" I assume you mean "calling enabled ". I am now able to change the starting orientation and then turn off/on calling enabled to rest the neutral point. I think you are successfully calculating rotational angles because it seems I can establish a neutral point with the phone not necessarily flat or vertical but somewhere in between. 
I had more success this time but found that it seems pretty sensitive to returning to that initial pose. Returning to a position close to the original can lead to missed or extra advances to the "next" maneuver. So the sensitivity request is really two sensitivities. One for how much change determines a "next" event and another for what is considered a successful return to neutral pose. Possibly consider resetting the neutral orientation every time it successfully returns to neutral so the delta for a change event is always measured from "zero"

This is a great platform and pulling sequences from a server is 
good design. These polish suggestions will make it fit more pilot 
personal styles more easily. Thanks

Lance

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:

            Thanks Lance!  

I do, in fact, sample the orientation of the device when you click the headphone button, and adding a sensitivity option is definitely on my to do list. 

In a vest pocket, device in 'natural' vertical orientation, yaw would probably be your best bet.  It's very important that you be set and in position to fly when you click the headphone button to start calling. 

What may work better for you is to strap the phone to a wrist so you can twist your wrist. Way up there at your vest pocket a slight motion of your upper body will be amplified.  

I know several people have mounted the phone to their handheld TX and successfully called themselves through a flight. 

Peter+

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On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:06 AM -0800, "Lance" <patterndude at tx.rr.com> wrote:

              Nice job! I don't fly with a tray but assumed I could slide the phone into a breast pocket (vertical default orientation) and tilt my body to advance to the next maneuver but it's not working well. I've tried all the tilt axes but the caller just runs away calling maneuvers too fast. I suspect you assume the default orientation is that the phone will be flat horizontal or close to it so its confused when the phone is vertical. 
Maybe when the user selects their roll axis you can sample the current orientation to set the default position?
Also it would be nice to have a slider to adjust the sensitivity. A very still pilot could use just a small tilt to indicate whereas a pilot using more body English needs less sensitivity. 

Lance

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On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

                Given that every sequence is changing for next year, it seems a good time to introduce people to the virtual caller application I listed on the Apple App Store yesterday:

Video of it in action: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOEfi3VqnCQ
Get it on the Apple App Store: https://t.co/aIBFvQBsuI

Available now for a limited time at $1.99, price will increase soon to $2.99 This will work with every iOS device out there -- iPod touch, iPhone, iPad Mini, etc. (though I wouldn't want to put an iPad on the bottom of my transmitter to use the tilt control!) but the screen format is optimized for iPhone/iPod touch.  You will need to be on the network the first time you run so it can download the sequences from the cloud.

All profits go to F3A Team USA -- if you are Canadian and buy 
it, shoot me a note and I'll apply profits from your purchase to 
F3A Team Canada!  If you prefer the donation to go to F3P Team 
USA, shoot me a note and I'll apply the profits to F3P :-)

I'll add $1.00 per review of the app that hits the app store this week to my donation!  Be sure to mention in the review if you fly/support F3A or F3P (or both).

This is the product of 100's of hours of development, not so much because the app is complex or hard (it wasn't) but getting a method of controlling the caller that works in field conditions took a lot of trial & error.  

Your feedback is welcome!

Peter+

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Aeronautics District X

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