[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 proposed sequences

James Hiller jnhiller at earthlink.net
Tue Aug 19 08:27:24 AKDT 2014


OK I'll start here this morning.
I agree that K-Factors are a poor indicator of difficulty, especially when
associated with individual preferences. Look at it as a weighting of more
difficult maneuvers to encourage us to practice and fly them to the best of
our ability.
Jim

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K factors should be rethought .. An eight point role with my Phoenix 8 is
alot different than with my current 2 meter .. Its like flying a gift now
days other than centering of the maneuver  yet retains the same or close to
the same k factor as many years past... Food for thought... 

Once again the current proposed pattern needs fixed or the numbers will
dwindle by at least one nxt year.. I can promise that..


Gary 


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> On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:34 PM, John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
> 
> Advanced and Masters are not our entry classes and should not affect
future participation. Those new to pattern should begin in either Sportsman
or Intermediate depending on skill level. When a flyer feels he is ready to
move up, he will try flying the next class in practice. If it is too
difficult to even see a way to fly that sequence reasonably, then that pilot
was not ready to move up and should stay in his current class another year
(or more). We do not lose people because they stayed in their current class,
we lose them because they moved up when not ready and find they are
outclassed without the vision, coordination, time to practice (or name your
reason) to be competitive. Not competitive for winning, just competitive. 
> Both Masters and Advanced can, and probably will be, changed next year.
Any substantial problems can be addressed then. Many have tested these
sequences. All have have flown them successfully, if not always happily. We
can go on and on about ugly maneuvers, difficulty levels and dislike of
change but that happens every cycle. 
> 
> Just for comparison here are Advanced and Masters from 20 years ago.
Overall both appear somewhat easier than the current sequences we are flying
but not a lot. Total KFactors are a bit lower. Also we are flying many of
the same maneuvers. I hope you noticed the knife edge top of the cobra in
masters. If you go back even further you can find a two roll loop in the
days before retracts...
> 
> John Gayer
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