[NSRCA-discussion] P15... And judging FAI

[John Ford]

All sounds good. 

As usual, Masters pilots almost always get to judge FAI, so I feel the need to know what I'm looking at, of course. The comments I made earlier are simply the comments of the guys I judged but I haven't flown P-15 to amp it and time it myself. Will do it this fall.
At any rate, the F-15 has so many elements happening in rapid succession and combination that it will be necessary to really study it and run through it with the stick plane several times, so nothing is missed. Almost looks to me that flying the F-15 "big" is going to help having enough time to do everything and getting a clean round…agree with Anthony…lots of battery. 

John


On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jas <justanotherflyr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have the descriptions in front of me but I'm pretty sure all equal radi.
> 
> While i doubt P15 will be discussed long (not much in the pattern needing discussion) what about a 'short' discussion on what Masters pilots will need to do to in order to both fly Masters well AND judge P/F15 with confidence. I'm lucky to have 3 Masters pilots (2 Advanced and an Intermediate learning Advanced) at my club field so I know the Masters/Advanced routines as well as I know the FAI patterns (makes it easy to judge Masters for me) but that's not the case everywhere. Should Masters pilots (and this would work for all classes) study and learn both of the FAI patterns? What do others do?
> 
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> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good points John, I also found that the centers top hat with spin many were tall and narrow. 
>> 
>> In regards to the knife edge Humpty many were not getting back to vertical in time and the radii were unequal. I understand it as the entry radius must match the radius in knife edge and exit radius. 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:41 AM, John Ford <jsf106 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I judged P-15 last month at Harry Ell's contest, and at Ft Scott last week…
>>> 
>>> Same observations…but also noticed that few were hitting and keeping the 45's, and there's a lot of 45's.
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, interesting to see that P-15 is almost "equal-or-easier" than Masters (and consumes less battery), but that the F-15 appears to be considerably more complex by comparison. 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Spent the weekend judging p-15. 
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting sequence, first maneuver sets up the next 3, pyramid is a geometric pain in the transmitter, square on corner easy to make the second leg too long because of the roll.
>>>> 
>>>> Let the yapping begin.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
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