[NSRCA-discussion] Intermediate Question - Two 1/2 rolls, Opposite

[S. McNickle]

D'oh! 

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AHHHH but I am!!!! Drawing isn't until Sunday!!! You still have time! NOW you're on the hook! 


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On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "S. McNickle" <nelson_jett at comcast.net<mailto:nelson_jett at comcast.net>> wrote: 

@ Mark....had to do something, you're not selling raffle tickets anymore. : ) 


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From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com<mailto:atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>> 
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Suck up. There must be a contest coming up… OH yeah, district champs :):):):) 

I agree with Ken though…and me…lol. Any length is ok. BUT CENTER IT!!! 


Mark Atwood 
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On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "S. McNickle" <nelson_jett at comcast.net<mailto:nelson_jett at comcast.net><mailto:nelson_jett at comcast.net>> wrote: 

One of the best judges I fly in front of, Mark Atwood, told me "It just needs to be there". An immediate reversal wouldn't show a pause and also would be darn near impossible to center. Most of us seem to be late on this one so I try to start early and roll out before I really think I need to. 

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Larry, 
Since the manuever descriptions doesn't specify the length/time, there isn't specific length of hesitation. 
However, I wouldn't stay long since it is down wind with Humpty bump with option is following. 
I usually try to keep it no longer than a second for the hesitation. 

Ihncheol 


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From: Larry Diamond <ldiamond at diamondrc.com<mailto:ldiamond at diamondrc.com><mailto:ldiamond at diamondrc.com>> 
Date: 09/13/2013 9:31 AM (GMT-06:00) 
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Intermediate Question - Two 1/2 rolls, Opposite 


How long does the pause at inverted need to be. 

If I roll inverted and then roll upright in the opposite direction, is it assumed there was a pause because it is natural in 1/2 rolls in opposite directions; or, must there be a lengthy hesitation? 

It's been awhile since I've flown in a contest... 2010 with a Zen 50 (only two contest that year); prior to that was 2007 w/ a 2M plane... 

As I recall the length of pause is not a downgrade. However, being a spectator at a contest earlier this year I noted many Intermediate pilots with a very long pause, almost or likely an inverted flight segment in the manuever as the length of inverted seemed much more than just a pause perhaps a second or so. 

Inverted segment must be centered. For scoring, if I roll early to inverted, I must hold the same length on the other side of center so that the inverted segment is centered. Not a questioning this... 

Probably should have clarified this prior to the day before a contest... LOL 

Larry Diamond 

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