[NSRCA-discussion] Transmitter Programming Question

Keith Hoard klhoard at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 8 11:36:32 AKST 2013


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Keith Hoard
Collierville, TN

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 14:26, "Peter Vogel" <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Oh, I do remember!  I also wish I had half the skillz of the HW guys I know (both Pattern Skillz and HW design skillz)...
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> Peter+
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>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> As a hardware engineer, I would like those software engineers to remember you wouldn't exist without us!
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>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As a software engineer, I find it offensive to do in hardware what can be done just as efficiently in software :-)
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>>> Peter+
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>>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:57 AM, J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Sorry guys, I couldn’t resist. The 5 A micro-switch from Radio Shack weighs 2 g.
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>>>> Jim
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>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ronald Van Putte
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 10:06 AM
>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Transmitter Programming Question
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>>>> On the Conquest VI I bought, there was a separate servo, which was operated by the throttle channel, that turned on a micro switch in the glow plug-battery circuit.  I decided there had to be a lighter way to do it and the receiver controlled switch was, but programming the transmitter proved to be more complicated than i imagined.
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>>>> Ron Van Putte
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>>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:35 AM, J N Hiller wrote:
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>>>> Boy this is complicated. I’ve done this many times on scale airplanes by brushing the lever on a micro-switch with the throttle servo arm.
>>>> Jim
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of atwooddon at aol.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:37 AM
>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Transmitter Programming Question
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>>>> yes, it does, has had it for about 6-7 years since the 14MZ came out
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
>>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Cc: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Nov 7, 2013 11:20 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Transmitter Programming Question
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>>>> 
>>>> No logical switch function in futaba's?  
>>>>>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
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>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:21 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>> Don't use a mix.
>>>> You need to determine first what the necessary channel output value is to turn the glow on. 
>>>> Then set up your plug channel and use throttle stick(J3?) as its input.
>>>> In AFR, use a "POINT" curve to trigger the output value you need at 15% throttle to turn glow on, you have 9+ points available and I believe you can move their x-coordinate as well.
>>>> Then, for an ON/OFF switch use a dual rate on the plug channel and the panel switch of your choice. You should then be able to set up a second "POINT" curve when the dual rate is active that has all values set to something that will turn and keep the glow off.
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>>>> I don't have a 12FG here to test this but it should work fine.
>>>> John
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>>>> On 11/7/2013 8:11 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
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>>>> OK.  I think I understand.  Pmix the throttle to the channel the receiver controlled switch is plugged into and use the throttle as the Pmix switch.  Yes?
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>>>> Ron
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>>>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Jas wrote:
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>>>> Pmix throttle to glow plug and set the points to turn on where you want
>>>> iJason
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>>>> www.jasonshangar.weebly.com
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>>>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> I think I'll just ignore that.
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>>>> Ron
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>>>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Phil S. wrote:
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>>>> Yes, Ron, switch to JR and it's easy!!!  lol
>>>>  Phil Spelt, KCRC Emeritus, Past President
>>>> AMA 1294 Scientific Leader Member
>>>> SPA L-18, Board Member
>>>> (865)435-1476v, (865)604-0541c
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>>>> On 11/7/2013 8:17 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
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>>>> I am trying to turn on an onboard glow plug battery on an O.S. .61RF using a receiver controlled switch, so that the glow will be on when the throttle stick position is less than 15% or so and off above that.  I am drawing a blank on how to accomplish it.
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>>>> I've used the throttle stick as a switch before to get dual rate rudder, but this is different.
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>>>> I have a Futaba 12 FG transmitter and will be using a Futaba R617 receiver.
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>>>> Are there any useful suggestions out there?
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>>>> Ron Van Putte
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