[NSRCA-discussion] What a difference a year makes

[Ron Hansen]

OK, I'm an environmental consultant that specializes in air permitting.

 

Global warming or climate change is all about the 3rd world countries trying
to even the playing field and the democrats trying to stop coal fired power
plants.

 

The US energy policy should be all of the above not just solar and wind.
Solar and wind has its place but none of them are currently competitive with
natural gas and coal.   Ethanol, solar and wind can't exist without
government subsides.

 

If the US doesn't buy the coal then China will.

 

Nuff said.

 

 

 

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Every good rant deserves a rebuttal. Here's mine.

On 3/20/13 1:17 PM, Dave Lockhart wrote:

The reason for that is some of the same "scientists" that (wrongly) touted
global cooling in the 1970s are the same ones now (wrongly) preaching global
warming.


Which ones are those?? Got any examples?? I think you may have a mistaken
impression of the state of scientific thought at the time as well as today.
This is a good graphic.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=43

  

The simple change of language from "global warming" to "climate change"
should be proof enough that global warming is not happening. 

This is not only wrong, but it is kind of a silly "proof". The main reason
that the term has been changed was due to fact that many deniers made silly
comments like "well it snowed here today, so much for global warming". The
more precise term is in fact global climate change. That is being fueled by
the increase in average global temperatures which are drastically affecting
the climate. It is also worth understanding the difference between climate
and weather.  



However, the politicians and greenies that used "global warming" as
justification for bigger government and more government control of the
private sector do not want to lose that traction as the fraud of global
warming is being disproven.

Again, this so wildly misunderstands the issue that it is hard to know where
to start to respond. It is an example of the thinking that Al Gore invented
global warming to take away your SUV.



  So they (the politicians and greenies) are now using "climate change" in a
desperate attempt to tie any naturally occurring climate condition to human
influence.

No, they are using climate change for the reason I stated above.

Here are a few nice graphics for people to look at. 

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php

I'm sorry, but the inability of any one person (or group of people) to
understand something does not mean that the something is wrong. For
instance, there are still people today who think the Earth is flat.

Anthropomorphic influence on global warming/climate change is undeniable. I
will grant that there is still much debate about what, if anything, we can
do about it. But to deny its very existence will render that important
debate nearly impossible.

BTW - for those that wonder. I am a geologist by education and profession.
Way back in 1983 I helped in some of the early research on the deep ice
cores from the Antarctic. This is not a recent science.

End of Rant for me.







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