[NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging cert test

w d whodaddy10 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 11 19:17:27 AKDT 2013


to whom ever

some of the answers on the cert test are lacking in thought and are just
down right bull $&^+...  exact words, spelling,, Im not an english major i
speak engrish i shouldnt have to spell it

Gary


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Ken Velez <kvelez at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> I was doing a 5hr test flight into Little Rock AR on one of my customers
> acft and while enroute I took my iPad and took the test at FL430. I failed
> the test with a 74% do to my choice of words in some of the blanks. Rule
> book not available at the time I took the test. Now I have to re do it.
> Maybe if at the end of the test it would give you the chance to verify or
> correct the questions that were not answered correctly instead of having to
> take the whole test again, won't be as annoying.
>
> Just my thought.
>
> Ken
>
> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>
>
> "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:
>
> I just took the AMA test (and passed thankfully!).  How long before the
> site list is updated to reflect that?
>
> Regarding the test itself, I was able to pass with 85% from memory.  The
> questions missed though were extremely annoying, in that it was a matter of
> trying to guess the correct sequence of words.    I think the single word
> fill in the blanks were ok.  It's the 5 word sequences that include trivial
> words like "to" that seem to need revising.
>
>
> Mark Atwood
> Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124
> Direct: 440.229.2502 |  Fax: 440.684.3102
> www.paragon-inc.com<http://www.paragon-inc.com/>
>
>
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>
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Astropattern <astropattern at yahoo.com<mailto:
> astropattern at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree with Derek that it's tough to set a stand alone test that everyone
> agrees with and that isn't so tough that it discourages participation.
> As time goes by, and the general level of judging gets better (or the
> downgrades become increasingly common knowledge and well-understood), there
> will be a need to raise the bar on the certification process and someone
> will need to put in some hard work to push us to the next level.
>
> John
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Charlie Rock <charlierock at me.com<mailto:
> charlierock at me.com>> wrote:
>
> I totally agree with John on this one!!i for one glad no class at AMA Hq
> to qualify for judging, but format leaves a lot to be desired!!
>
> Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government
> when it deserves it!!!
> Mark Twain
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 5:59 PM, John Ford <astropattern at yahoo.com<mailto:
> astropattern at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I did them both…the system worked OK…but still disappointed with the
> format…you can know what you are talking about but still fail the test if
> you don't use the exact words. The test probably forces people to read the
> book that would otherwise never do first off, but as a re-certification
> test, it is more a memory puzzle than anything else.
>
> Better than sitting in a hot room for an hour in a sweaty t-shirt at the
> end of a day, though.
>
> John
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Michael S. Harrison <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:drmikedds at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>
> I just finished the AMA recertification test.  It was a huge Pain in the A.
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] On Behalf Of Michael S. Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:41 AM
> To: 'General pattern discussion'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>
> I am having no luck.  Am I certified?  Can someone look for me?
> thanks
> Mike
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>] On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:06 AM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>
> Because AMA and FAI are on different rules cycles, a year apart.  Happened
> several cycles ago.  AMA Masters and Advanced sequences and rules changed
> for this year.  FAI changed in 2012.
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com<mailto:
> cahochhalter at yahoo.com>>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:59 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
> Thanks Jon, but how does that happen?
>
> C
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com<mailto:
> jonlowe at aol.com>> wrote:
> Chuck,
> I was partially incorrect.  You show as current for FAI, but not AMA.
>
> For all,
> As Derek said, you MUST sign in to the site to see the judges list.  You
> do NOT have to be an NSRCA member to get a login.  On the pull down, you
> can sort by various means (last name, district, etc).
>
> Keith,
> It's only a flesh wound...
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com<mailto:
> cahochhalter at yahoo.com>>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:31 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
> Time for some Monty python quotes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Keith Hoard" <klhoard at hotmail.com<mailto:
> klhoard at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Uh, huh . . . feeling oppressed yet?
>
> From: mikemueller at f3aunlimited.com<mailto:mikemueller at f3aunlimited.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:37 AM
> To: General pattern discussion<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>
> Ok I don't see where that is Jon. I see a drop down on the top that leads
> to the wrong list like John but nothing on the right. Am I on the right
> site?????
> Also I thought it had to be everyother year like Chuck and I certified
> before the Nats last year. It's every year now?
> Thanks, Mike
>
> Mike Mueller
> F3Aunlimited
>
> From: Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com<mailto:jonlowe at aol.com>>
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>
> On the right hand side of the screen there is a pull down menu where you
> select the Certified Judges list.  Not real obvious, I will admit.
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com<mailto:johnfuqua at embarqmail.com
> >>
> To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 9:19 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
> Scott/Derek
> If you go to the website and click on judging/certification/certified
> judges list you get this list “This list will produce a list of all
> registered members of the website that have verified their email
> addresses.  This is not a list of NSRCA members.”’
>
> What you do not get is a list of certified judges.  For that you must go
> to Lists/membership lists.   ????????????
>
> John
>
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?] On Behalf Of Archie Stafford
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:58 AM
> To: NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>
> There are still quite a few people attending the NATS who have not taken
> the judging certification test.  You are REQUIRED to be certified to judge
> at the NATS.  If you are not certified, that means you miss a judging
> session and will lose your highest round.
>
> Please take the time, if you have not done so to go to the NSRCA site and
> complete the judging test...
>
> Arch
>
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