[NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging

Thu Jul 11 18:38:29 AKDT 2013

I agree with Derek that it's tough to set a stand alone test that everyone agrees with and that isn't so tough that it discourages participation. 
As time goes by, and the general level of judging gets better (or the downgrades become increasingly common knowledge and well-understood), there will be a need to raise the bar on the certification process and someone will need to put in some hard work to push us to the next level.

John

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On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Charlie Rock <charlierock at me.com> wrote:

> I totally agree with John on this one!!i for one glad no class at AMA Hq to qualify for judging, but format leaves a lot to be desired!!
> 
> Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it!!!
> Mark Twain
> 
> 
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 5:59 PM, John Ford <astropattern at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did them both…the system worked OK…but still disappointed with the format…you can know what you are talking about but still fail the test if you don't use the exact words. The test probably forces people to read the book that would otherwise never do first off, but as a re-certification test, it is more a memory puzzle than anything else. 
>> 
>> Better than sitting in a hot room for an hour in a sweaty t-shirt at the end of a day, though. 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Michael S. Harrison <drmikedds at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just finished the AMA recertification test.  It was a huge Pain in the A.
>>>  
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Michael S. Harrison
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:41 AM
>>> To: 'General pattern discussion'
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>>  
>>> I am having no luck.  Am I certified?  Can someone look for me?
>>> thanks
>>> Mike
>>>  
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:06 AM
>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>>  
>>> Because AMA and FAI are on different rules cycles, a year apart.  Happened several cycles ago.  AMA Masters and Advanced sequences and rules changed for this year.  FAI changed in 2012.
>>> Jon
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com>
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:59 am
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>> 
>>> Thanks Jon, but how does that happen?
>>>  
>>> C
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chuck,
>>> I was partially incorrect.  You show as current for FAI, but not AMA.
>>>  
>>> For all,
>>> As Derek said, you MUST sign in to the site to see the judges list.  You do NOT have to be an NSRCA member to get a login.  On the pull down, you can sort by various means (last name, district, etc).
>>>  
>>> Keith,
>>> It's only a flesh wound...
>>> Jon
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com>
>>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:31 am
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>> 
>>> Time for some Monty python quotes.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:38 AM, "Keith Hoard" <klhoard at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Uh, huh . . . feeling oppressed yet?
>>>  
>>> From: mikemueller at f3aunlimited.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:37 AM
>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>>  
>>> Ok I don't see where that is Jon. I see a drop down on the top that leads to the wrong list like John but nothing on the right. Am I on the right site?????
>>> Also I thought it had to be everyother year like Chuck and I certified before the Nats last year. It's every year now?
>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>  
>>> Mike Mueller
>>> F3Aunlimited
>>>  
>>> From: Jon Lowe <jonlowe at aol.com>
>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>>  
>>> On the right hand side of the screen there is a pull down menu where you select the Certified Judges list.  Not real obvious, I will admit.
>>> Jon
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>
>>> To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2013 9:19 am
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>> 
>>> Scott/Derek
>>> If you go to the website and click on judging/certification/certified judges list you get this list “This list will produce a list of all registered members of the website that have verified their email addresses.  This is not a list of NSRCA members.”’
>>>  
>>> What you do not get is a list of certified judges.  For that you must go to Lists/membership lists.   ????????????
>>>  
>>> John
>>>  
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?] On Behalf Of Archie Stafford
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:58 AM
>>> To: NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging
>>>  
>>> There are still quite a few people attending the NATS who have not taken the judging certification test.  You are REQUIRED to be certified to judge at the NATS.  If you are not certified, that means you miss a judging session and will lose your highest round. 
>>>  
>>> Please take the time, if you have not done so to go to the NSRCA site and complete the judging test...
>>>  
>>> Arch
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