[NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates

Mon Feb 25 13:12:17 AKST 2013

This is probably not an easy issue to resolve. I presume this question has been on a number of peoples minds recently, but nobody has asked yet... So...

Is it time, once again, to have a traveling NATS managed and scheduled by the NSRCA; and, no longer rely on AMA resources?

Is there an AMA requirement that states a SIG must have their NATS at the AMA grounds in Muncie managed by the AMA and to the AMA schedule?

Larry

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From: Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net>
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates

I think the larger issue is that most of AMAs membership no longer competes. I remember when the NATS had their own issue of model aviation. Now the NATS get 2-3 pages of pics and that's it.  The organization has definitely changed. 

Arch

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone  -------- Original message --------From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com> Date: To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates We had N-PAC because AMA refused to permit NSRCA to have any say on how the Nats were run.  That reason is over.  Now we have to compete for Nats time with other SIGs.  In my opinion, the best way to do that is to increase the number of Nats competitors in R/C Aerobatics. 

Ron
On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:
We also used to have NPAC.  Now, we have to do what we can within the framework of the AMA and their time restraints.  It is very unfortunate.
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>On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Charlie Rock <charlierock at me.com> wrote: 
>And that is very very sad to hear!!! Charlie
>>"When people are afraid of a government that is -  Tyranny; And a government that is afraid of the people that is - Liberty."            Thomas Jefferson 
>>On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net> wrote:
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>>>I completely agree Ron but those days are gone. The AMA is no longer focused on competition like it used to be
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>>>Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone  -------- Original message --------From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com> Date: To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates I know that "suck" and "blow" are opposites, but that situation both "sucks" and "blows".  We used to have a designated "checkin/practice" day and a "rain" day. 
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>>>Ron
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>>>On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Archie Stafford wrote:
>>>Mike,
>>>>The AMA has shortened the total NATS period this year, so you read that correct. Fortunately, our actual flying days were not changed.  Soaring went from 13 days to 6 days this year. In previous years, it was never truly our day, but it worked out that way as a day of setup for the workers.  We have never had a true practice day, but since the sites were free, they were available.  Sites 1 and 4 may be available, but that remains to be seen.  Once Pylon is done then we will be able to use the sites.  Think of it as how the others sites have worked on Saturdays in previous years.
>>>>Archie
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>>>>On Mon 02/25/13 3:31 PM , mike mueller mups1953 at yahoo.com sent:
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>>>>I have a question too.
>>>>> On the AMA site they show RC Pylon still being there on the Sunday the 21st. If that's the case will it stop us from practicing on that day? Thanks, Mike--- On Mon, 2/25/13, Bob Kane wrote:
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>>>>>>From: Bob Kane 
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates
>>>>>>To: "General pattern discussion" 
>>>>>>Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 2:23 PM
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>>>>>>I sent a message on facebook, but here is my quesiton again via "real" email . . .  .
>>>>>>Am I set to work site 1 again this year?  I am not going to try and compete and work as I did last year, it did not work out very well.  
>>>>>>Thanks.
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>>>>>>Bob Kanegetterflash at yahoo.com
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>>>>>>From: Archie Stafford 
>>>>>>To: General pattern discussion 
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:03 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates
>>>>>>Just settled dates here at the NATS planning meeting. The official dates are now set and I want to get it out early. July 21-25. Check-In is July 21. Intermediate & Advanced flying July 22-24Masters and FAI Prelims July 22-24Masters & FAI finals July 25Fees are the same as last year.Early entry deadline:  June 24Late deadline: July 8Fees will once again double after June 24. Refunds can be issued up to 24 hours prior to start, minus the AMA part,  so if you register early and have to change, you can get your NSRCA fees back.  Will update with more information later, but wanted to get the dates out for planning purposes. Arch_______________________________________________NSRCA-discussion mailing listhttp://us.mc1247.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.orghttp://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
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