[NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates

Mon Feb 25 12:37:03 AKST 2013

I think the larger issue is that most of AMAs membership no longer competes. I remember when the NATS had their own issue of model aviation. Now the NATS get 2-3 pages of pics and that's it.  The organization has definitely changed. 

Arch

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From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com> 
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We had N-PAC because AMA refused to permit NSRCA to have any say on how the Nats were run.  That reason is over.  Now we have to compete for Nats time with other SIGs.  In my opinion, the best way to do that is to increase the number of Nats competitors in R/C Aerobatics.

Ron

On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Scott McHarg wrote:

We also used to have NPAC.  Now, we have to do what we can within the framework of the AMA and their time restraints.  It is very unfortunate.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Charlie Rock <charlierock at me.com> wrote:
And that is very very sad to hear!!! Charlie

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On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net> wrote:

I completely agree Ron but those days are gone. The AMA is no longer focused on competition like it used to be

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From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputter at gmail.com> 
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To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates 

I know that "suck" and "blow" are opposites, but that situation both "sucks" and "blows". We used to have a designated "checkin/practice" day and a "rain" day.

Ron

On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Archie Stafford wrote:

Mike,

The AMA has shortened the total NATS period this year, so you read that correct. Fortunately, our actual flying days were not changed. Soaring went from 13 days to 6 days this year. In previous years, it was never truly our day, but it worked out that way as a day of setup for the workers. We have never had a true practice day, but since the sites were free, they were available. Sites 1 and 4 may be available, but that remains to be seen. Once Pylon is done then we will be able to use the sites. Think of it as how the others sites have worked on Saturdays in previous years.

Archie

On Mon 02/25/13 3:31 PM , mike mueller mups1953 at yahoo.com sent:

I have a question too.
 On the AMA site they show RC Pylon still being there on the Sunday the 21st. If that's the case will it stop us from practicing on that day? Thanks, Mike

--- On Mon, 2/25/13, Bob Kane wrote:

From: Bob Kane 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates
To: "General pattern discussion" 
Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 2:23 PM

I sent a message on facebook, but here is my quesiton again via "real" email . . .  .

Am I set to work site 1 again this year?  I am not going to try and compete and work as I did last year, it did not work out very well.  

Thanks.

Bob Kane
getterflash at yahoo.com
From: Archie Stafford 
To: General pattern discussion 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:03 AM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 2013 NATS dates

Just settled dates here at the NATS planning meeting. The official dates are now set and I want to get it out early. 

July 21-25. 
Check-In is July 21. 
Intermediate & Advanced flying July 22-24
Masters and FAI Prelims July 22-24
Masters & FAI finals July 25

Fees are the same as last year.
Early entry deadline:  June 24
Late deadline: July 8

Fees will once again double after June 24. Refunds can be issued up to 24 hours prior to start, minus the AMA part,  so if you register early and have to change, you can get your NSRCA fees back.  

Will update with more information later, but wanted to get the dates out for planning purposes. 

Arch
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