[NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea

[Peter Vogel]

Where's that "Like" button!  I'm all for naptime! :-)

Peter+


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Keith Hoard <klhoard at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Nap time. . . . definitely need to schedule nap time . . . And first
> place trophies for all.
>
>  *From:* Chuck Hochhalter <cahochhalter at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:08 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea
>
>  I like ice cream.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Richard Lewis <humptybump at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>  Trophies and ice cream for everyone on Sundays.. WooHoo!!
>
> Richard
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Dave Burton" <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
>
>   I’ve also submitted rules proposal to eliminate the whole
> points/advancement process. Got nowhere! I won’t do it again!****
>
> I’ve decided I’ll fly whichever class I think is appropriate for me
> regardless of the rules. If a CD wants to disqualify me, please let me know
> ahead of time so I can save travel cost.****
>
> This a set of rules that serve no purpose and probably actually drives
> down participation. Why some want to keep it is beyond me.****
>
> Dave****
>
> ****
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [
> mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Lewis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:03 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amnesty idea****
>
> ****
>
> I wrote an official rules proposal last cycle to allow declaration of
> class at the beginning of each season... ****
>
> ****
>
> Competitors typically fly in 3 to 4 contests per season.. Plenty of time
> to test one's self in another class and then choose the appropriate class
> for the next season...No forced advancement, no one stuck in an
> inappropriate class...****
>
> ****
>
> It was whole-heartedly rejected in favor of the suggestion method that
> ultimately passed...
>
> Richard****
>
> Sent from my mobile device.****
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:****
>
>  Mike,
> Thanks again for the loan of a very nice airplane for the Fat Lake Pattern
> Meet. Glad Russ was able to buy it, it will be a very good airplane for
> him.
> The contest was very well run by Bob Wilson and John Hoelscher and other
> members of the Peoria R/C Modelers. I had a great time flying, meeting new
> folks and hanging out at the field in Russell Shavitz' new RV parked in the
> middle of all that corn.
>
> As Scott McHarg has pointed out in this thread and we discussed during the
> contest, the rule change we proposed last year addressed the problem of
> being able to move down a class at the end of the year. Others have pointed
> out that there is a mechanism for doing this now. It involves petitioning
> the AMA for a change in class. There are two problems with this system. One
> is that there are some who quit rather than go through the process. Those
> flyers are lost to us for long periods of time and may never return. I know
> about that, I was one of them for a decade.
> The second issue is that the AMA VPs seldom(ever?) reject these petitions.
> They do not know the flyer and his abilities, may(or may not) do a bit of
> research, and then approve the petition. If they are always approved, what
> is the function of this process? Why should we waste the time of the DVP?
> Leave it up to the competitor to recognize that a move back one class would
> be good for him. Peer pressure will take care of  abusers - as it does now,
> not the AMA.
> John****
>
> On 8/19/2013 12:16 PM, mike mueller wrote:****
>
>  At the Peoria contest this weekend we had the pleasure of having John
> Gayer from New Mexico attend and fly with us.****
>
> We got into a discussion about ideas to grow the sport.****
>
> One I brought up and it's nothing new is a one time only Amnesty period.**
> **
>
> It would allow any flier who has been a consistent low placer in their
> class the ability to drop down at the end of a season.****
>
> It seems clear to me that this really needs to happen and the residual
> benefit from such a program could very well help to get some guys back into
> the sport.****
>
> What would it take to get such a program instituted? ****
>
> What are the barriers that would stop this from being put into the rules?*
> ***
>
> Is there a potential downside to this that would make it worse than what
> we have now?****
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