[NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals

Phil S. chuenkan at comcast.net
Sun Mar 18 17:37:18 AKDT 2012


Quit stirring up trouble, RVP -- I used to see Dave B. pretty regularly 
at SPA events, and our paths haven't crossed lately -- missed seeing a 
friend, that's all.  Where's the "put down" in that???????


On 3/18/2012 7:13 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
> I think that "I haven't seen you at an event is several years" is 
> meant as a put-down.  Well, I have seen Dave many times at contests in 
> the southeast  during the past several years.  I have called for him 
> and vice versa.  He's been active, so I assume he's "earned" the right 
> to comment on what he sees as unfair.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Phil S. wrote:
>
>> First, Dave, I haven't seen you at an event is several years -- 
>> t'would be good to see you again!  Second, I have not seen anyhone 
>> doing anything forcing pilots to fly electric in pattern.  That is a 
>> choice each person makes freely.  That said, I, too, have always 
>> wondered why the weighing parameters are what they are -- without 
>> fuel but with batteries.  I have never come across a rationale for 
>> that difference.  Anyone out there know why?  The only difference in 
>> the two power systems I can see is that fuel burns off and the plane 
>> gets lighter during a flight, but the battery always weighs what it 
>> weighs, but I don't see why that would matter...
>>
>> On 3/18/2012 2:06 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
>>>
>>> George,
>>>
>>> Yours is an interesting post. In an environment where we are all 
>>> flying the same power systems I think you would be spot on. However, 
>>> what I'd like to see is a change that accounts for the fact that 
>>> glow planes must make 5Kg without fuel and electric must make 5Kg 
>>> with fuel. In order for comparable planes to comply with the weight 
>>> it's necessary for electric to use more hi-tech and expensive 
>>> components, lighter less durable building techniques, more expensive 
>>> and lighter accessories, etc. thus increasing the cost. Almost every 
>>> glow 2M plane takes off above 5Kg and flies at above 5Kg the entire 
>>> sequence. I know there are exceptions but I think it's generally 
>>> true.  I know I could choose to fly glow and not have an issue. 
>>> However I want the advantages of electric without having to pay a 
>>> significant cost penalty to do so. Let's fix the inequity of this in 
>>> the AMA classes.
>>>
>>> Dave Burton
>>>
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