[NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals

Tue Mar 13 04:23:23 AKDT 2012

that is all true but there were no imac and no helicopters and no indoor and
no jets.  I believe that is the main reason for reduction in attendance.  it
has nothing to do with the very minor adjustment to the weight rule or other
changes that have occurred.  btw, I am only supporting a weight rule change
of 16 oz or less.  just want to loosen the belt a little, not change
clothes.

mike 

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Having flown back then I remember 50+ at contests.. We were lucky to get 3
or 4 , 4 being the norm,rounds depending on the efficiency of the contest
officials,, not really missing traveling for 4 rounds. But would love to see
increased numbers.. Such is life..

Gary

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On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Del" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Bob.. 

Not sure if you hark back tot he 70's with 68  in attendance at local
contests. That contest has withered and never gone back to even close to
those numbers. 

    Del

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That may be so, but I don't see how this particular proposal would have that
effect. Is anyone serious about leaving the hobby because of the weight rule
proposal? Is anyone who was contemplating pattern competition going to be
turned off by it?

Keep in mind there will always be chronic complainers. How many times did I
hear that "four-strokes are going to ruin the sport" or "turnaround ..." or
"noise rules ...", etc etc. Some did leave the hobby, but there will always
be turnover. Some of them will feel the need to give an excuse whether it
really is the reason. I will say that some of the largest local contests I
ever attended were AFTER all of those game-ruining rules that I mentioned. 

The whole hobby of model airplanes has changed significantly in the last
10-15 years, with many more venues to divide one's time in the hobby -
pattern is an overall smaller piece of the pie as a result. I personally
don't think that anything about the rules can be blamed for any downturn in
pattern contest attendance. Nor do I think that tweaking the rules we have
will magically breath new life into it. 

Bob R.

--- On Sun, 3/11/12, Del <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

From: Del <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 2:56 PM

Bob.. 

Poorly disguised rule changes have driven more from the sport than any words
or hashing about the sport. 

    Del 

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:22 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals

Guys,

For the life of me, I can't see why everyone is getting bent out of shape
over the proposed weight limt rule for the lower classes. It opens up the
possibilities for someone wanting to get started in pattern and competing in
the lower classes, IMHO. If someone in the upper classes has a plane that is
at the weight limit, but is unable to repair the plane without it going over
the limit, then it becomes a perfect hand-me-down for someone getting
started. 

The fact is that the proposed rule does not exclude any planes that are
already legal. The guys that build light know they should have a better
flying plane than one that is heavier. The only reason I can think of that
people with light planes can get upset with this rule is that someone with a
heavier plane might beat them. 

OTOH, how often are models weighed at local contests? I never saw it done in
the years I flew, but that was before the electrics came on the scene. Tell
me, does any CD weigh planes at a local event now? If not, then I am really
confused about weight limit discussions where someone says it is ruining
things to raise the weight limit, when no one is checking it at local
contests anyway. Why all the fuss (one way or the other) about a rule that
no one enforces except at the Nats?

I really don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm just confused about all the
strongly worded comments going back and forth. This, IMHO, does more to turn
people off from pattern than any rule change proposal.

Bob R.

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