[NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems

[Keith Hoard]

I want to see an Angle of Attack indicator on the plane that makes a *loud
audible sound with flashing lights* when it detects an actual stalled
condition during a snap or spin . . . .

I'm just sayin' . . .

Keith Hoard
Collierville, TN
khoard at gmail.com




On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jay Marshall <lightfoot at sc.rr.com> wrote:

> When all is said and done, how many pilots can watch the plane and
> telemetry readouts at the same time? As long as they are visual only,
> except for safety warnings, I don’t see a problem.****
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> Jay Marshall****
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael S.
> Harrison
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM
> *To:* 'General pattern discussion'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems***
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> Bob,****
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> I respectfully disagree.  It is not a judging competition or a competition
> between pilot and judge, it is a flying competition to determine who flies
> the most perfectly.  The judges job is to determine objectively who has
> done that.  I suggest that the judge use any means possible to do that and
> that includes all reasonable technology.  To say that a judges have an
> advantage the pilot does not have is not an issue because it is not about
> judges vs pilots, it is about how perfectly the pilot flies the airplane.
> If this can all be determined by some form of technology that is totally
> objective, then by all means we must embrace that.  the rules are to
> determine what tools the pilot have at his disposal to fly.  ****
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> I suggest the pilot already has too many tools at his disposal.  It is
> important that the pilot have tools to protect his equipment and fly
> safely, but I suggest that we have, in a sense, reduced our piloting skills
> to more of techno skills.  All the complex programming etc that goes into
> flying today makes the differences in piloting almost mute.  I would like
> to see the caller restricted as well.  It is about the best pilot, not the
> best caller.  I would like to see the rules made so that the caller is
> allowed to call the maneuver only but that won’t happen.  ****
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Richards
> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM
> *To:* General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems***
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> I don't agree with judges having an advantage that the pilot does not
> have. IOW, if the pilot can't tell he is drifting in/out, but the judges
> know so only because they have GPS proof, then that is a bad thing, IMHO.
> This is one reason why the judges have to sit close to where the pilot is
> standing, so they see what the pilot sees, instead of at the end of the box
> so they have a boresight view of the slow rolls. ****
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>  ****
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> But that brings up a point, the pilot should not have any more information
> than the judges have, either. If you are getting information via downlink
> that you would NOT want the judges to know, then maybe you should not be
> getting that information either.****
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> Bob R.****
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> --- On *Mon, 11/21/11, astropuppy <astropuppy at gmail.com>* wrote:****
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> Just my 2 cents. I think this technology would be best used to eliminate
> the judges. Take a few (box & center) gps coordinates before the contest
> and voila a judge who will work all day without lunch or a Bio break. Mike
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