[NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members for World Team

[Vicente "Vince" Bortone]

I agree 100 %.  It is a great opportunity.  The selection process does not need to be that formal.  You never know,  this could be a "chick" that will allow us to discover the next champion.  

Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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From: John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Mon, 30 May 2011 13:18:02 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members for World Team
Derek,
Since noone qualified through the NAts last year, could we extend an 
invitation to an under-18 who is currently flying F3A? Perhaps by making 
a selection through how many competitors the candidate has beat in 
contests this year? There can't be that many to choose from.
I suggest that the opportunity to compete in a world championship 
against the best in the world would be a very memorable experience for 
one of our kids regardless of trophies, etc. Whenever there has been an 
opportunity to field a fourth entry as World Champion, we have done so, 
even to the possible detriment of our team standing at the WC. I suggest 
this would be in the same spirit without any downside impact to the team.
John
On 5/30/2011 12:01 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:
>
> The Junior category for F3A is only effective starting in 2012. A 
> decision to include junior's was made by the CIAM F3A Sub-Committee 
> chair in November last year and got the approval of the CIAM committee 
> in early December at the CIAM meeting (which I did not attend). The 
> first I heard about this was the middle of January when we were 
> getting ready to publish the first bulletin for the WCs. This WC will 
> not offer a "Junior" World Champion -- there will only be a "highest 
> placing Junior" if there are more than 3 Junior's competing.
>
> One other point to consider... there were NO junior's participating at 
> the Nats in F3A last year (2010). The only person that was listed to 
> participate was Brandon Landry and he never competed last year. It 
> would be a little hard to choose a junior when we didn't have any 
> competing...
>
> *From:*nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *John 
> Gayer
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:10 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members for World Team
>
> That would be our CIAM representative, Derek Koopowitz. However, I 
> have no idea if he was the representative when the current rules for 
> 2011 came up for a vote.
> After that, Al Glenn as team manager should be familiar with the rules.
> And of course anyone now flying F3A should also have read the rules.
>
> Still I can see how this might be overlooked. After all, there appear 
> to be only two countries who did not overlook it. However the question 
> now should be: can we still propose a junior at this late date and do 
> we have one that is ready to step in? Were there any juniors or 
> seniors that flew F3A in last year's Nats??
>
>
> On 5/29/2011 7:44 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote:
>
> I keep wondering who in the U.S. should have been "minding the store" 
> on this subject. If other countries picked up on adding a junior 
> member on their team, why didn't we?
>
> Ron
>
> On May 29, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Bob Richards wrote:
>
>
>
> Then I guess the only alternative is to send no junior? Seems to me 
> that if we get a quick consensus to use the Nats results, it should 
> all be good.
>
> JMHO,
>
> Bob R.
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 5/27/11, Joe Lachowski /<jlachow at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com>>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joe Lachowski <jlachow at hotmail.com <mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members for World Team
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> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
> Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 10:38 PM
>
> I believe none particitated in the team selection process?
>
> Picking someone based on anything else would open a can of worms.
>
> > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:11:51 -0600
> > From: jgghome at comcast.net <mailto:jgghome at comcast.net>
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
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> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members for World Team
> >
> > Looking at the AMA site for the Worlds, I notice that several
> teams have
> > added a fourth junior member to their teams as per the new rules.
> > It is rather disappointing to me at least that we, as the host
> nation,
> > have not given any of our juniors(under 18) a chance to compete
> at the
> > world level against other international juniors.
> >
> > John Gayer
> >
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