[NSRCA-discussion] NATS 2012

[Archie Stafford]

	Dave, 

	I have a perfectly legal Wind S Pro you can use, since I wont be
needing it.:) 

	Arch
 On Tue 12/13/11 1:05 PM , "Dave Burton"  wrote:
	I may be wrong, but I think there were no Intermediate or Advanced
airplanes weighted or checked at the 2011 NATS. Consequently no
complaints. 
	I have no problem with Arch running the NATS by the rule book, I
would expect  that.  Like someone else said maybe too much to weigh
after every flight. If I go, I’ll play by the rules too.  Arch has
stepped up and agreed to be the ED and run by the rules. I applaud him
for it! My problem is with the rule and the frustration with NSRCA and
the contest board for lack of vision to see the need for change.  
	I will make a personal financial decision on how much going to the
NATS is worth relative to the total cost, including additional money
to make my planes legal,  just as everyone else does. But an
additional $400-$800 will probably tip the scales as not worth it for
me for what is essentially just  one  contest as I would have no
chance of winning or placing (I just want to finish ahead of Van
Putte!) .  

	Dave Burton 
	FROM: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] ON BEHALF OF John
Gayer
 SENT: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:08 PM
 TO: General pattern discussion
 SUBJECT: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS 2012 
	Keep in mind that the weight rule is not applied at any local
contests, only at the Nats.
 Let's consider the Nats for a moment and assume the attendance is
100 spread out equally in four classes(not exactly the case but close
enough)
 Intermediate- Already gets a weight allowance and I didn't hear any
complaints at the Nats so 100- 25 = 75
 Advanced- Already gets a weight allowance. Again I heard no
complaints so  75 - 25 = 50
 F3A- we have no control over the application of weight rules for FAI
particularly in a team selection year so 50 -25 = 25
 Masters- This is the only class that has to adhere to 5000  grams
under AMA rules. Most Masters pilots that go to the Nats are flying
top of the line aircraft that do make weight anyway. I'm sure there
are a few(less than a handful) nationally that did not go to the Nats
because their plane would not make weight. Perhaps there is also a
handful who did go that ONLY spent the money to make weight  so (25-20
= 5 )+ 5 =10
 So we should change or ignore the rules at the Nats for a few
Masters pilots that might not go to the Nats next year rather than
spend the money to get their airplane to make weight? I don't think
so. 
 Perhaps Arch is a bit overboard with wanting to check every plane
after every flight but weighing every plane at least once and checking
the stickers after each flight seems very reasonable to me. In any
case he has established very early that weighins _will_ be done and
has a plan in place on how to accomplish it. Much better than this
past Nats where we told to make weight and then not checked at all.
 John
 
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