[NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete

Ronald Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Thu Dec 8 07:10:09 AKST 2011


I finally must comment.  The judge has enough to do without being expected to punch buttons with the score AND not look away from the airplane.  I have very good peripheral vision and, while looking at the airplane, can often observe the head of my co-judge looking down during half of many maneuvers.  That's not fair to the pilot!  

If we are good enough to perform maneuvers without looking at the transmitter, we should be good enough continuously watch the airplane, while writing the scores on a clipboard and transcribe them to the score sheet later. 

There.  I feel better now.

Ron Van Putte

On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Peter Vogel wrote:

> Exactly. With 12 finger size buttons and an 'enter'.  0-10 and a .5 button.  Very quick and hitting enter finalizes. Enter with no score button is Not Observed and then at the end you review the scoresheet, make any corrections you want and hit enter one more time.  Arresti at the bottom for reference. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone4S
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> On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Keith Hoard <khoard at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bob,
>> 
>>     I've been thinking of just this system for a couple years now.  If you were using a smart phone, you could hold it up near your line of sight during the flight and tap in your score without taking your eyes off the plane.  Perhaps even a graphic of the maneuver for quick reference?
>> 
>> Keith Hoard
>> Collierville, TN
>> khoard at gmail.com
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>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> All of the sites I hit on the pattern circuit here in D4-D5 have cellular service, most are near large metro areas so 3G should be avaliable also.
>>  
>> I would be a little concerned about the ability to punch in a score on a screen (even if i was a single "button") especailly in the event of a mistake. A judge could be distracted trying to correct a score. A pencil/paper system is hard to beat for ease of use and quick error correction.
>>  
>> Bob Kane
>> getterflash at yahoo.com
>> From: Peter Vogel <vogel.peter at gmail.com>
>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 3:05 AM
>> 
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete
>> 
>> I've been thinking about a "better way" to get scores into a system like PACSS, given the general ubiquity of smart phones and the overall tech savvy among the pattern crowd, I believe it should be possible for a judge or scribe to very quickly enter scores for each maneuver into an iOS or Android phone or tablet communicating via the cellular data network (typical data is so small as to be VERY lightweight on data usage, so even Edge data services would be quick enough to record scores) the interface would be designed for very fast entry of a score (two taps per maneuver scored) with the interface optimized for the screen size of phone or tablet.  
>> 
>> Here in California, I have yet to visit a field where I didn't have 3G data service, but I realize California can be an outlier in such matters.  
>> 
>> So, of the fields where you have competed in the last year, how many had 3G data service?  Edge? and No Data service?
>> 
>> How many of you have a smart phone and/or tablet?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Peter+
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