[NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers

[Atwood, Mark]

Agree strongly with this.   Because most people can NOT tell how high we really are, that is ALWAYS the answer to that question.

No point in stirring the pot unnecessarily.



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-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:46 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers

...ahem.....the answer is always "about 400' max"......

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Keith Hoard
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:16 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers

Then you need to ask him how he measured the height of your maneuvers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:52, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:

> Only until someone in the FAA enforcement division happens to see an R/C
airplane performing one of the tall maneuvers; then all hell will break
loose.
>
> Ron
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:
>
>> The fact is, if passed it'll be ignored as usual.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 9/8/10, John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: John Fuqua <johnfuqua at embarqmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers
>> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 10:29 PM
>>
>> The fact that we are having this discussion only proves the point that we
>> have no real way of determining, in real time, how high we are.  We are
>> guessing.  If the 400 foot gets to be a HARD limit we are really screwed.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill's
Email
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:50 PM
>> To: scott at rcfoamy.com; General pattern discussion
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers
>>
>>  Sorry, FAA AC 91-57 says 400 feet, period. When within 3 miles of an
>> airport you need to contact the airport.
>>
>> The AMA Safety Code reads 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport and to
>> contact the airport. AMA added a comma which changed the whole meaning.
>>
>> FAA is now writing new rules that will affect us, to what extent remains
>> to be seen.
>>
>>
>> AC 91-57 wording:
>> Do not fly model aircraft higher than 400 feet above the surface.
>> When flying aircraft within 3 miles of an airport, notify the airport
>> operator, or when an air traffic facility is located at the airport,
>> notify the control tower, or flight service station.
>>
>>
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/
>> 1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-57.pdf
>>
>>
>> AMA Safety CODE:
>>
>> 3. I will not fly my model aircraft higher than approximately 400 feet
>> above ground level, when within three (3) miles of an airport without
>> notifying the airport operator.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/10 6:37 PM, scott at rcfoamy.com wrote:
>> > > From Greg at ama it is as the 1981 FAA advisory stated 400 feet agl
>> within 3 miles of a CONTROLED airport.
>> >
>> > If flying within 3 miles the airport has to be notified as they do for
the
>> sailplane events at the NATS.
>> > Scott
>> >
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