[NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

Fri Oct 29 08:44:04 AKDT 2010

No, we had all new schedules this year, both Prelim and Finals.  They do fly 2 unknowns in the finals as well and those are created by the pilots as a group the night before.

We'll fly the same sequences in 2011 (P-11 and F-11) until the world champs after which the schedules change to P-13 and F-13 to begin preparing for the 2013 world Champs.

Mark Atwood
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J N Hiller
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:37 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

Didn't they change the alternate schedule flown in the finals that was different from the previous year?
Jim

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jon Lowe
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:27 AM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

FAI is also on a two year schedule, just out of phase with AMA.  They are flying the 2010-2011 schedules now.  They change after the world championships.
Jon Lowe

-----Original Message-----
From: J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

I just got back last night and I'm playing catch-up.

I expected a proposal to change masters annually as soon as control was

released from the AMA two-year cycle, but not this soon.

FAI offers a new schedule every year that should be sufficiently challenging

for anyone, don't they?

We still may need refresher / annual judge training to understand and

standardize how these new sequences need to be judged as well as

indoctrinate new judges.

Judging criteria is loaded with important details, some of which tend to

fade or get neglected during the flying / judging season. If all we were

judging were lines track and length, radiuses, rolls and positioning it

would be easy but these things tend to get complicated requiring additional

judging clarification.

Back to the shop, flying season is over for me.

Jim Hiller

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5DOn?> Behalf Of Bill Glaze

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:59 AM

To: General pattern discussion

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

Agree.  But, is Masters once again the only subject here?  Or, could we

consider the other 50% of the membership also?  Bill Glaze

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From: "Keith Black" <tkeithblack at gmail.com<mailto:tkeithblack at gmail.com>>

To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>

Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:50 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

Changing Masters after only one year would not only get us on the FAI

schedule but would be an interesting exercise that may reveal we

really enjoy changing every year!  If we did decide to change every

year it would not mandate resertification every year unless new

elements or rule changes were added.

Think of how exciting it is every two years when we get a new

schedule, we could enjoy that more often if it works out well.

Furthermore it's more fair for someone new to or returning to masters

after a year off so they are not flying against someone that has a

year extra practice on a given sequence. It sort of sucks moving up

and flying Masters pilots that are on the second or third year of

flying the same Masters pattern.

I strongly encourage that we give it a try. The thought of waiting

three years to change to get in sync is extremely distasteful to me.

Keith Black

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com<mailto:atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>>

wrote:

> Derek,

>

>

>

> Has there been any discussion around getting the AMA schedules and the FAI

> schedule onto the same cycle? This would help tremendously with Judging

> certification. Assuming that we can't really impact the FAI 2 year cycle,

> it would mean either keeping these new AMA schedules for 3 years, or

> introducing new schedules again in 2012.

>

>

>

> Personally these seem like great schedules, but I realize that 3 years is

> a

> long time to keep one sequence. Any thoughts? Maybe look to change

> Masters again in a year but keep the rest? Just thinking out loud.

>

>

>

> Mark Atwood

>

> Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President

>

> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124

>

> Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax: 440.684.3102

>

> mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com<mailto:mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com> | www.paragon-inc.com<http://www.paragon-inc.com>

>

>

>

> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>

> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?>] On Behalf Of Derek

> Koopowitz

> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:16 AM

> To: General pattern discussion

> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sequences for 2011 - approved

>

>

>

> Everyone,

>

>

>

> The NSRCA board has approved the proposed sequences for Sportsman,

> Intermediate and Advanced for 2011 (and beyond). The NSRCA board also

> approved the short Masters sequence for use in 2011/2012. I look forward

> to

> a great 2011 flying season with these new sequences.

>

>

>

> In addition, the board also approved the sequence development guide - the

> revised version will be posted on the website this evening along with the

> new sequences for 2011.

>

>

>

> Thanks for everyone's patience on this... since this is our first time

> going

> through this process, we really wanted to make sure we got it right so

> that

> we could meet our goal of approving new sequences in future years by

> October

> 1st prior to the year of actually using them.

>

>

>

> -Derek

>

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