[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews]FW: NOTAM/TFRfor Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)

Thu May 27 06:47:20 AKDT 2010

Shouldn't the Commander-in-Chief be somewhere else this MEMORIAL DAY
WEEKEND. . . like in Arlington remembering the Troops?

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Richard Strickland
<pamrich47 at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Actually it would seem the only RC activities they need to worry about are
> those at *NON* AMA sanctioned sites...
> Anyone who shows up with any kind of UAV looking thing is going to be
> surrounded by nine guys wanting to know what makes it tick, who the guy is,
> does he have a permit, where's he live, what's his AMA No., etc.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: tony at radiosouthrc.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:18:37 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews]FW: NOTAM/TFRfor
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>  You are probably correct.  But if someone is caught flying, it could be a
> disaster for modeling if the news people jump all over us not obeying laws
> with RC airplanes that could be used as a weapon.  What AMA argues is that
> this normal flying activity goes on daily on known AMA sanctioned club
> fields all over the country.  We don’t have models that leave the flying
> site (at least, not on purpose!) and we are NOT a threat to National
> Security.   Logic is not a strong point of the US Government….
>
>
>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South, Inc.
>
> 139 Altama Connector, Box 322
>
> Brunswick, GA  31525
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Strickland
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:03 AM
> *To:* NSRCA
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews]FW: NOTAM/TFRfor
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>
>
> But seriously, what about the 'every once in a while' guy, the fellow/gal
> who's got their own field on a farm, park fliers, etc. that don't have the
> slightest idea they are now flying in restricted airspace?  As a practical
> matter, I don't see it as enforceable.
> RS
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: tony at radiosouthrc.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:33:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFRfor
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
> They would probably treat you just like they would if a guy walked into the
> White House with a gun….  “Hey, I didn’t know I couldn’t bring my .45 to
> show President Obama”…
>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South, Inc.
>
> 139 Altama Connector, Box 322
>
> Brunswick, GA  31525
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Strickland
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:15 PM
> *To:* NSRCA
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFRfor
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>
>
> What happens if you play dumb and use the field anyway?
> "Ah, SIR, what's a NOTAM?!"  They'd probably see me on radar as I got
> enamored with my M uplines...
> RS
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:43:21 -0700
> From: mups1953 at yahoo.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFR for
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>  Hey Tony thank god we have the AMA. I'm really proud to be a member. It's
> a fantastic organization and does so much to serve its members mostly with
> volunteers. We all need to truly understand what it does and has done for
> all of us.
>
>  Hopefully common sense will prevail and this dumb practice will stop. Till
> then for the sake of my life haha I'll refrain from flying during a notam.
> MIke
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/26/10, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFR for
> Chicago, IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 2:29 PM
>
> Yeah, it is a real pain!  Our AMA Governmental Affairs Rep Rich Hansen has
> been working for over a year now trying to get approval for exceptions for
> us model aircraft users, but our US Government (Secret Service, Homeland
> Security) is hard to convince.  They actually have verbiage in the rules
> that says they are approved for “use of deadly force” on any found not
> complying with the NOTAM!
>
>
>
> AMA is continuing to work on it.  Just thought you might want to know that
> it has not gone un-noticed.
>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South, Inc.
>
> 139 Altama Connector, Box 322
>
> Brunswick, GA   31525
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:
> nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *mike mueller
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:22 PM
> *To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFR for
> Chicago , IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>
>
>  Guys talk about something that stinks.
>
>  The President is spending the weekend plus in Chicago .
>
>  We are shut down during his entire stay. Why they couldn't just shut us
> down when he's coming and leaving is beyond reason.
>
>  So from Thursday at 7pm CST to 5PM Monday we are not allowed to use our
> field because it's within 30 miles of Ohare. 5 days!!!!!
>
>  So much for getting ready for the Shootout on the 4th of June.
>
>  Hmmm  what to do this weekend????? Suggestions anyone????
>
>  By the way Rusty's big Vintage pattern event is just outside the zone and
> it won't be affected. Mike
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/26/10, mups53 at aol.com <mups53 at aol.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: mups53 at aol.com <mups53 at aol.com>
> Subject: Fwd: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFR for Chicago , IL - 5/27-31
> (Memorial Day Weekend)
> To: mups1953 at yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 2:13 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rf222 at sbcglobal.net
> To: trivillagenews at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 2:04 pm
> Subject: [TriVillageNews] FW: NOTAM/TFR for Chicago , IL - 5/27-31
> (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>
>
> After considerable checking and rechecking the millage and the notes in the
> TFR, we have determined that our field does fall within the 30 nmr TFR. Our
> field is 25 nm from the center of TFR 1967.
>
>
>
> TFR 1967 specifically states Model Aircraft Operations are not authorized
> within the TFR. Therefore we are not permitted to fly at the field from 7:01
> PM CDT on Thursday May 27th through 5:30 PM CDT on Monday May 31st.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately we have no recourse on this.
>
>
>
> I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
>
>
>
> Dave Picek
>
>   *From:* AMA Webmaster [mailto:webmaster@<http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=webmaster@&>modelaircraft. org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:49 PM
> *To:* Gary D Stephens
> *Subject:* NOTAM/TFR for Chicago , IL - 5/27-31 (Memorial Day Weekend)
>
>
>
> A new FDC NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the greater Chicago , IL area
> beginning at 7:01p on Thursday, 5/27, and lasting until 5:30p CDT on Monday,
> 5/31. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover VIP movement in this
> area. Model aircraft operations are prohibited in this area during the
> specific times of the TFR. Please note that TFRs are subject to change with
> very short notice. Check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR
> information.
>
> Timely alerts are also available on the web or on you cell phone at: Twitter.com/
> amagov <http://twitter.com/amagov>.
>
> See the links to the TFRs below for more detailed information regarding the
> restrictions:
>
>    - Area 1 (5/27, 7:01p - 5/31, 5:30p CDT)
>    (30nm radius from Latitude: 41º54'14"N, Longitude: 87º37'58"W)
>    - Area 2 (5/27, 7:01p - 8:15p CDT)
>    (10nm radius from Latitude: 41º59'16"N, Longitude: 87º54'18"W)
>    - Area 3 (5/27, 7:01p - 5/31, 5:30p CDT)
>    (10nm radius from Latitude: 41º54'14"N, Longitude: 87º37'58"W)
>
>  TFR - 0/1967 <http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_1967.html>
>
> TFR - 0/1968 <http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_1968.html>
>
> Map View of the Affected Area <http://02b954f.netsolhost.com/amatfr8.html>
>
> Regards
> Gregory Hahn
> Technical Director
> AMA
>
>
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