[NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again

mike mueller mups1953 at yahoo.com
Thu May 6 08:06:24 AKDT 2010 

 FMA Cellpro 10 is my favorite. Look for a sale. Forget all the software and save the money.
 Matt in my opinion sending back 3 year old lipo's is somewhat unreasonable. You can't expect lipo's to hold up more than 2 years at best. But that's just my opinion. Mike

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com> wrote:

> From: rcmaster199 at aol.com <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:21 AM
> For a couple hundred bucks it's
> probably worth it to get a couple sets 
> and try E.
> 
> What charger is reasonably inexpensive that will do the
> job?
> 
> MattK
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 10:58 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
> 
> 
> " I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires
> excellent care, and 
> good
> conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or
> similar)."
> 
> I'd make the same argument for most glow motors being used
> <G>  Ie, no 
> dirt
> or water in the fuel, proper needle settings, proper after
> run, etc.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Atwood, 
> Mark
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:10 PM
> To: 'nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
> 
> Exactly.  Hard NOT to try.  I have 5 flight packs
> and all seem strong.
> Only have 40 cycles on a few though, so no long term data
> but still, you
> don't need a lot to get good value.
> 
> I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires excellent
> care, and 
> good
> conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or
> similar).  My 
> "risk" is
> lower when I'm only trying to get 50-100 cycles.
> 
> Not to mention that shelf life plays a role.
> 
> -M
> --------------------------
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org>
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wed May 05 21:45:20 2010
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
> 
> Mark,,
> 
> Really??? less than 100$ for 10 cells?? Wow!!
> 
> I can't not try this now. I can really buy 4 1/2 sets for
> the price of
> 1 thunder power?
> 
> Hell my airborne 2s2p, 1760ma lipo from Radical cost more
> than a 5S
> zippy
> 
> MattK
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
> 
> 
> I placed an order of items which were supposedly in stock,
> but, between
> placing the order and getting it out, one item went on
> backorder, so
> they didn't ship the order. I realized what had happened
> and sent an
> e-mail to their customer service, telling them to remove
> the item from
> my order and ship the rest. They did and issued a credit to
> my account.
> Worked for me. Yes, the prices are unbeatable. 
>  
> Ron Van Putte 
>  
> On May 5, 2010, at 5:26 PM, mike mueller wrote: 
>  
> > 2 to 3 weeks 
> > Tip: 
> > Never ever place an order that has a backorder on it.
> They will > let
> the whole think sit for months and never let you know. 
> > HK's customer service is horrible. 
> > Prices are un matchable. Mike 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com>
> wrote: 
> > 
> > From: Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com> 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 1:55 PM 
> > 
> > I've ordered a couple of times and it was always less
> than 2 weeks. >
> I always use the cheapest shipping method they offer. 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Rex <trexlesh at msn.com>
> wrote: 
> > 
> > From: Rex <trexlesh at msn.com> 
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again 
> > To: "NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 7:43 PM 
> > 
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> what I >
> figured. 
> > 
> > Rex 
> > 
> > > From: atwoodm at paragon-inc.com 
> > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:12:40 -0400 
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
> again 
> > > 
> > > 2-3 weeks. 
> > > -------------------------- 
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> <nsrca-discussion->
> bounces at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > > To: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > > Sent: Tue May 04 18:49:39 2010 
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
> again 
> > > 
> > > Guys 
> > > 
> > > On average, how long has it been taking to get
> your battery >
> orders from Hobby City? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks 
> > > 
> > > Rex 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 07:08:36 -0700 
> > > > From: mups1953 at yahoo.com 
> > > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
> again 
> > > > 
> > > > Zippy's are working well. 
> > > > I have 2 new Power Unlimited packs from F3A
> Unlimited. They are >
> a higher 20C and very light 42 ounces all up. Most 20C
> packs are > much
> heavier The power is phenomenal so far. 
> > > > True's 12C's are 42 ounces but my 1
> remaining pack is not >
> coming back from the winter hibernation. I know of others
> with the >
> same issue. So at twice the price as the Zippy 15C's they
> are not a >
> good buy. At one time the True's were a good choice but
> that > changed
> when these packs came along. 
> > > > My choice for this year is the Zippy's 15C's
> for practice and >
> the PU by FU 20C's for contest flights. The PU's are at an
> > attractive
> price point for what they do. Mike 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
> wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> 
> > > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
> Batteries again 
> > > > > To: "General pattern discussion"
> <nsrca->
> discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:36 AM 
> > > > > I've had similar good luck with the 
> > > > > Flightmax 5000 15C packs. 2 packs weigh
> in around 
> > > > > 1190gms (I have pairs as low as 1170
> and one as high as 
> > > > > 1204gms). 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do NOT have a lot of flights on any
> yet. About 40 
> > > > > on my most used pack so far, but I have
> 5 sets and all seem 
> > > > > to be running strong so far. At
> under 
> > > > > $100/flight pack ($39.95 per 5s pack
> plus about $10 
> > > > > shipping) it's hard not to consider
> these at least for 
> > > > > practice packs. Even if they're only
> good 
> > > > > for 50 flights, that's still under
> $2/flight. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm keeping track of my usage and will
> report back later in 
> > > > > the summer when I have more time on
> these. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Mark 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mark Atwood 
> > > > > Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President 
> > > > > 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 
> > > > > 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124 
> > > > > Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax:
> 440.684.3102 
> > > > > mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com 
> > > > > | www.paragon-inc.com 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
> > > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] 
> > > > > On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:14 AM 
> > > > > To: General pattern discussion 
> > > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
> Batteries again 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am flying the 15C Zippy FlightMax
> 4400s and am amazed 
> > > > > with their 
> > > > > performance. My "figure of merit" is
> how well the 
> > > > > airplane does in 
> > > > > the next to last maneuver in the Master
> class schedule, the 
> > > > > 1/2 
> > > > > square loop w/ two 1/2 rolls up. The
> airplane has 
> > > > > more "authority" 
> > > > > here than with any other pack I've
> flown. They are 
> > > > > light and 
> > > > > inexpensive. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ron Van Putte 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On May 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Stuart
> Chale wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Since Keith brought it up, he is
> selling what most 
> > > > > would say are 
> > > > > > the "gold standard" for pattern
> packs. At least 
> > > > > more people have 
> > > > > > had good luck cycle number wise
> with TP packs than 
> > > > > many of the 
> > > > > > others. Keith what have you
> decided to use 
> > > > > instead? 
> > > > > > Has anyone had good luck with any
> of the newer low 
> > > > > cost cells? I 
> > > > > > was playing with True RC but had
> to return too many 
> > > > > packs. My best 
> > > > > > pack is now failing after about 60
> cycles (over 1 year 
> > > > > old). Still 
> > > > > > pulls well enough to practice but
> comes down pretty 
> > > > > hot and I an 
> > > > > > sure it is about ready to go. 
> > > > > > Zippy's seem to be the cheapest
> right now, and the 15C 
> > > > > ones are at 
> > > > > > a good weight. Anyone having good
> luck with 
> > > > > those? 
> > > > > > How about the new TP pro lite 2's?
> Are they 
> > > > > giving the cycles that 
> > > > > > the original Pro Lites did 
> > > > > > Stuart 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 5/3/2010 9:38 PM, Keith Black
> wrote: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> For Sale: Two Thunder Power
> Prolite V2 5300 5s 
> > > > > packs with only 20 
> > > > > >> flights (Model: TP5300-5SPL2).
> Packs are wired 
> > > > > together in a 10s 
> > > > > >> configuration. Weight
> including Dean's connector 
> > > > > is 1165 grams. 
> > > > > >> The packs have been treated
> extremely well (I'm 
> > > > > very meticulous 
> > > > > >> about my equipment). Never
> discharged over about 
> > > > > 3300 mAh (62% of 
> > > > > >> capacity), and were always
> stored at a storage 
> > > > > voltage of 38.5 
> > > > > >> volts in air-conditioned room.
> Packs were 
> > > > > purchased in July, 2009. 
> > > > > >> The only reason I'm selling
> these packs is because 
> > > > > they are the 
> > > > > >> only pack I have that is this
> shape and I want to 
> > > > > standardize on a 
> > > > > >> single form factor for
> mounting convenience. The 
> > > > > (recently 
> > > > > >> reduced) price from Thunder
> Power is $419.98, I 
> > > > > will sell both 5s 
> > > > > >> packs for $189.00 plus
> shipping. Keith Black 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >>
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