[NSRCA-discussion] F3A Judging / Scoring

Derek Koopowitz derekkoopowitz at gmail.com
Mon Jun 14 07:27:55 AKDT 2010


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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Richard Lewis <humptybump at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Earl,
>
> Can you provide a link to the FAI F3A sporting code and/or the Maneuver
> descriptions for the 2011 sequences...I will google them when I get a
> chance, but if you have links you can easily post it would be easier..:)
>
> On your topic, is there any basis within the written rules to justify a
> judge tallying partial points and using a roundoff method (up/dowm) to get
> whole points?
>
> I know you have been to some international comps and we have some
> international judges on this list, can you or anyone else comment on how
> this issue is dealt with by others around the world?  It would be beneficial
> if the judging during the team selection (Nats) approximated the judging
> philosophies that will be applied at a Worlds Competition, to select pilots
> that would fare best when judged by the internaitonal pool of judges they
> will ultimately fly in front of.
>
> Richard Lewis
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net>
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 9:00:43 AM
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Judging / Scoring
>
> The list has been  a bit quiet - maybe this will help. The Nats are just
> around the corner and include the F3A Team Selections. F3A scoring is
> different than AMA in that maneuver scores are recorded in whole points - no
> half points. But just what does this mean? Is every errant movement a whole
> point deduction? Consider the 1 point deduction for each 15 degree error
> guide - how is a 5 degree error scored? It's important that everyone be on
> the same page with this.
>
> I suggest that while the rules require *recording* the score in whole
> points there is no requirement or limit as to the magnitude of  *
> downgrades* applied to individual errors by a judge. A judge is free to
> use whatever fraction deemed appropriate. Logically, a 5 degree error
> requires a 1/3 point downgrade, 10 degrees a 2/3, and so on.
>
> The 1 for 15 guide doesn't allow a "free" zone of less than 15 degrees
> where no downgrade is applied and, similarly, doesn't mean small errors of a
> few degrees are downgraded a whole point.
>
> OK - so only one 5 degree error is observed for an entire maneuver, how is
> this recorded? Ask this - is there a whole point deduction, is the deduction
> even near a whole point? No - then recorded the score for the maneuver a 10!
> The rules don't require a perfect maneuver for a 10 - just less than a whole
> point deduction. OTOH - a 10 degree error only would be scored a 9 as it's
> nearer a whole point and would be rounded down. Half point deductions
> present a bit of a quandary (one mathematical convention is to round to the
> even number) and I don't use them for F3A.
>
> What works best for me is a 1/3 point downgrade for small errors which is
> consistent with a 5 degree error. I find this an easy measure to tally
> elemental downgrades during the maneuver and eliminates questions with
> rounding as the score is recorded.
>
>
> Earl
>
>
>
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