[NSRCA-discussion] Once again... (Envision)

shinden1 at cox.net shinden1 at cox.net
Thu Jun 10 13:54:25 AKDT 2010


Glad I could help you again,Jason, I enjoy the challenge,of strange mixes LOL,
 Chip and C/A built a nice design,and the airplane looks great !
I know you will be rewarded with your Efforts on your first Design, 

Bryan 


---- JShup <jshulman at cfl.rr.com> wrote: 
> Here I sit sweating my butt off in the sweet FL heat... But no longer  
> am I chasing the unknown. I got the Envision and promptly threw it  
> together in 2 days (a record for me lol) without truly seeing where  
> any of the settings were. After a few flights I got the plane 'mixed  
> and trimmed'. Wondering about some settings I had, I sent a text to  
> Mark Hunt to find out where my cg range should be (actual spot at the  
> wing root).  I give him the numbers he needs, he draws it out real  
> quick and gives me a range. I was at the front of the range so now I  
> knew where to play with the cg. To my delight, all of the mixes were  
> 5% and less. Looked like we hit it really close off the bat. Then I  
> start fine tuning the mixes and in comes some strange S  
> mixes....hmmmmmm. No biggie, it's still less than 7% all around; I can  
> live with that.
> 
> But that curiousity cat got to me and I leveled the fuse out and  
> checked over everything. LOL wow.... Turns out that I really missed my  
> alignment of the firewall install (I'm NOT a builder so I'm ok with it  
> lol) and I had some positive upthrust... oops. Out comes the 1/32"  
> plywood and shims are made. Then I check the wings... Hey I got  
> something right lol. They're set positive to about where they felt  
> good so no adjusting needed on them, yet. Then the stabs. Just  
> eyeballing them with my 'calibrated eye' they looked to be LE  
> (positive?) up. After checking the meter, yep, LE up. So I get ready  
> to send Chip an email about where the stabs should be according to the  
> fuse marks and he happens to call. We talk about my trimming and it  
> hits him... The marks haven't been moved on the first 2 planes...  
> Bingo (that's why I'm glad to get the first planes, I don't mind  
> working out the bugs if it means future planes are correct). So I put  
> a 2nd adjuster pin tube in the fuse right under the original tube for  
> the adjuster pin and after some adjusting I get them set.
> 
> So once I know where everything is, I shoot Bryan a text and tell him  
> where I'm at and he laughs and writes me back a novel text. So I  
> answer what I can in book format and then get another novel in return.  
> Poor Bryan, I can only imagine him texting these responses back to me  
> lol. So to spare us both the texting, I gave him a ring and we talked  
> about everything it's doing. So he tells me where to set motor/wing/ 
> stab/cg according to what I tell him it's doing and that brings me to  
> today. The mixes are still less than 6% and I don't have anymore S  
> point mixes. I'm still dabbling with fine tuning as it's a little  
> windy out but it feels soo much better.
> 
> Thanks to:
> Chip, Marcelo and the CA Models crew for helping bring the Envision to  
> life
> Mark Hunt for the quick cg range before his trip to the contest
> Bryan Hebert for the endless answers to my setting up/trimming  
> questions... yet again
> 
> Jason



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