[NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop

[mike mueller]

 Been there done that...... Twice!!!! Doh!!!!

--- On Sat, 7/24/10, Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:

> From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:48 PM
> Yes.  A shorted out 10S-5000 mah
> lipo pack can turn 6mm bullet  
> connectors into molten metal in an instant.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Pete Cosky wrote:
> 
> > Or buy a good welding hood
> >
> > Pete Cosky
> > sent from my mobile device
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:24 PM
> > To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop
> >
> > Guys who say, "Oops!"  a lot should steer clear
> of electric-powered
> > airplanes.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:42 PM, <shinden1 at cox.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Agree Dave
> >>
> >> As in any competition you have to know your
> equipment ,keep up with
> >> maintenance ,and have backups.
> >> I saw many smoked batteries,and burnt speed
> controllers at the
> >> Nats ,,as well as flame outs from the YS Engines.
> >>
> >> Competition is supposed to be rough on equipment
> .I know of plenty
> >> Neu motors that have spun.or burnt and took
> forever to be repaired
> >> or replaced and upgrades continue as in any
> competition engine.
> >>
> >> But I will agree if you are new to the sport .or
> not very
> >> handy ,,Electric my give you an easier time in
> competition
> >>
> >> Bryan
> >> ---- Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>> I would agree that a properly running YS170 is
> still
> >>> competitive...but with
> >>> the "cost" of more fiddling, more maintenance,
> and less margin on
> >>> the noise
> >>> meter.  For anyone starting from
> scratch..I think it is getting
> >>> very hard to
> >>> make the argument that electric is more
> expensive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Neu F3A certainly is putting the most RPM
> to the prop of any
> >>> of the
> >>> currently used electric setups, and the
> potential "cost" is that  
> >>> when
> >>> propped to make the big power...it also has
> the capability of
> >>> smoking lipos
> >>> if the throttle hand is too heavy.  The
> newer higher KV Plett Evo
> >>> might be
> >>> in this category as well, but I've not seen
> one run yet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   _____
> >>>
> >>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of
> >>> mike mueller
> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32 PM
> >>> To: General pattern discussion
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out
> the shop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Well stated Matt. Although I do have to
> say that the most
> >>> balistic and
> >>> powerful plane I saw at the Nats was Bobby
> Satalino's Beryl with a
> >>> non CDI
> >>> YS 170. Next in performance was anything with
> a Neu like Dave
> >>> Lockhart.
> >>>
> >>>  E. has many options that deliver the
> mail. Still a good YS is
> >>> viable. Mike
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sat, 7/24/10, rcmaster199 at aol.com
> <rcmaster199 at aol.com> 
> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: rcmaster199 at aol.com
> <rcmaster199 at aol.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out
> the shop
> >>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >>> Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:06 PM
> >>>
> >>> I took a 3 minute flight on Dave Lockhart's
> Bravo several weeks
> >>> ago...it was
> >>> my first on a full blown electric. And it was
> enough to convince
> >>> me that wet
> >>> powered systems are behind.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Electric Bravo is superior in its
> powerplant than practically
> >>> every wet
> >>> set-up I've seen. (That's not necessarily true
> of all electrics
> >>> but Dave's
> >>> set-up is something else...like cheating)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's gonna be expensive but if one wants to be
> really serious
> >>> about pattern,
> >>> electric power has got to be in your future.
> And no, it has
> >>> nothing to do
> >>> with judging in my opinion. Electric just
> makes power delivery (of
> >>> the type
> >>> we demand in pattern), easy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MattK
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: shinden1 at cox.net
> >>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>> Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:21 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out
> the shop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I smell electric in your future!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---- Archie Stafford <astafford at md.metrocast.net
> >>> <http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?
> >>> to=astafford at md.metrocast.net>
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Now that the NATS are done, I'm going
> through some stuff and
> >>>> getting rid
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> things I'm not using.  I wanted to
> post the items here first.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1 NIB YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition - 800.00
> (this setup has never
> >>>> run)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh
> factory rebuild with new
> >>>> ignition
> >>> 700.00
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh
> factory rebuild with used
> >>>> ignition
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> (still runs perfect) 600.00
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1 Hatori 821 Pipe brand new, no box 
> 120.00
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1 Hatori 821 pipe used, but perfect
> condition 75.00
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Please email me directly at astafford at md.metrocast.net
> >>> <http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?
> >>> to=astafford at md.metrocast.net>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Arch
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
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