[NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Wed Jul 7 07:18:29 AKDT 2010

 Good point Dave. When Derek did it for my group 2 years ago he used a voice level that was appropriate and I can't see that it interferred with the pilot and his caller. Whoever does the judge calling needs to be aware of this. Last thing anyone wants to do is upset a flier. We all need to respect that. Thanks, Mike

--- On Wed, 7/7/10, Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Dave <DaveL322 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28 AM

And…..the worst possible scenario (from the pilots perspective)……is a yelling contest between the pilots caller and the judges caller.  I called for the judges, called for the pilot, and been the pilot when the judges caller sounded like they were in my ear.  If multiple judges callers are needed to keep a single judges caller from “shouting” to the group of judges, the pilots would very much appreciate this.

Regards,

Dave

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:22 AM
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It was also critical in the finals for the unknowns.  Makes it MUCH MUCH easier to judge the nuances of the sequences.     It’s also critical that the judges get the unknowns the night before so they have a chance to learn them as best they can.   

Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130,  Cleveland   Ohio ,  44124 
Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of mike mueller
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

 Derek, 2 years ago when I was judging FAI in the F09 in the semi's you were calling the manuevers for the judges. That really helped. I suggest that we have that in place again for the first year of this new sequence it makes a big difference. At local contests we get very little exposure to the F pattern and in fact all 3 local contests that I've attended this year had the F patterns cancelled due to weather. Here in our area we've never gotten a chance to learn the new pattern and I feel I'd be at a great disadvantage. Mike

--- On Wed, 7/7/10, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
To: "' General pattern discussion '" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 8:55 AM

Yes, the long and the short of it.  LOL

All F3A finals judges will go through a comprehensive discussion of the sequences and “things” to watch for prior to the finals.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:13 AM
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So the short version is that if we were ok to judge at the nats last year, we’re still good for this year?   I was thinking that a new FAI pattern meant new certification… (don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to not have to go through it).

-Mark

Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130,  Cleveland   Ohio ,  44124 
Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:37 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Unfortunately the list on the website is not current at all - it is over a year old.  I believe that list was produced about May last year.  If your name is on that list then you are current for this year as well but anyone that has been certified since that time has not been added to the list.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:

Derek

Is the list on the website valid?

Earl

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Derek Koopowitz 

To: General pattern discussion 

Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

I'll post the judging certification requirements on the website this evening... Matt Kebabjian also wrote an article which is in the June issue of the K-Factor. 

As for a list... I'm working on it.  :-)

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:

What are the judging certification requirements this year?  Is there a “list” to check to see if we’re good to go?

Mark Atwood
Paragon Consulting, Inc.  |  President
5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130,  Cleveland   Ohio ,  44124 
Phone: 440.684.3101 x102  |  Fax: 440.684.3102
mark.atwood at paragon-inc.com  |  www.paragon-inc.com

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41 AM
To: ' General pattern discussion '
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Monday.

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:36 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS

Quickie:  Is the competition flying going to begin on Sunday?  Or will it begin on Monday?

TIA

Bill Glaze

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