[NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . .

Thu Sep 3 07:45:56 AKDT 2009

Hi Ron,

What were the dates for the 1999 WC?

Tony

On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:

> Mike Mueller said, "Will finding volunteers be difficult? No doubt.  
> Can we do it all? I'm pretty confident but it won't be easy and we  
> need people to be understanding and flexable."
>
> I think Tony Stillman will agree that, if we could get the country's  
> R/C aerobatics pilots to come to an old Navy field on the Gulf Coast  
> near Navarre, Florida and perform all the "skill jobs" required to  
> run an F3A World Championships, like we did in 1999, I think we can  
> handle putting on one in Muncie in 2011.
>
> BTW, CPLR was there in 1999, and it is worth watching him fly.
>
> Ron Van Putte
> 1999 F3A WC co-CD
>
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:47 AM, mike mueller wrote:
>
>> Hey guys just a chime in and a perspective.
>> I first heard about the proposed dates at the NSRCA officers  
>> meeting held at the Nats.
>> My initial reaction was how cool it will be that we will have 2  
>> events back to back and what a privilege it is to host the worlds.
>> I know that Derek has been busting his tail and doing his homework  
>> to get this done so I support him.
>> So after some thought I've come to the conclusion that this is a  
>> pretty workable solution if all the logistics can be worked out  
>> with the AMA and event conflicts.
>> To the best of my knowledge there have been talks with Don Cherry  
>> of the AMA and I think for the most part the preliminary schedule  
>> is pretty close to what's going to happen.
>> Someone had to take the ball here and make some decisions. I'm  
>> thinking that this is Derek's and the AMA's plan. Question is what  
>> would you have done if you were the leader of our organization?
>> I think it was Doug who made the statement that the Worlds are a  
>> priority.
>> He's right to a degree. We have been chosen to host the best flyers  
>> in the world and this has to be #1 on the list of things to  
>> accomplish in 2011. I will re access my personal needs and align  
>> myself with the task at hand. If I get lucky I get to do both the  
>> end of the worlds and compete in the Nats. Time and personal  
>> situations will dictate.
>> Will the worlds hurt the Nats? Probably. Will finding volunteers be  
>> difficult? No doubt. Can we do it all? I'm pretty confident but it  
>> won't be easy and we need people to be understanding and flexable.
>> I can't wait to see CLPR for myself.
>> Thanks for letting me air my thoughts. Mike Mueller D5VP
>>
>> --- On Wed, 9/2/09, krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at  
>>> Muncie . . . . .
>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 10:58 PM
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> This has been discussed quite a bit previous to this
>>> conversation on the officers list quite some time ago. Derek
>>> has done a huge amount of work to make this happen as you
>>> must know. I believe it had been discussed with the ama, and
>>> therefore the reason for the rough dates that we have. I
>>> could be wrong, but this is my recollection.
>>>
>>> I know it seems odd to you, as it did me at first, but I
>>> haven't been on the team before as you, nor have I ever
>>> had the chance to witness a "Worlds" as you have.
>>> This is my chance to see it. If it's right before the
>>> nats, that's great timing for me. And many that were
>>> asked, feel this way.
>>>
>>> It is wished by many of us that the nats date didn't
>>> have to be moved, but soaring could move up a week, and so
>>> on to make room for the worlds. The nats
>>> will be poorly attended if the two are separated IMO. A
>>> lot of people may want to see the worlds competition.
>>> If they are separated, not many of us will be able to
>>> attend. Just my opinion though. Not discounting yours. I
>>> agree with you about it being hard to find a hotel, but I
>>> don't think any of the competitors will stick around for
>>> a local nats as they just flew the worlds. I would think our
>>> own worlds team may not attend the nats right after. Maybe
>>> the current team could chime in if they read this to say if
>>> they would have stuck around for a local nats in Portugal
>>> the week after the worlds.
>>>
>>> Think about a rotating nats. If it was held somewhere else
>>> in the country, the dates would most likely vary up to a
>>> month either way.
>>>
>>> Not arguing with you here. This is said in a calm tone.
>>> Just conversing.
>>>
>>> You coming to Hollister?
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: General
>>> pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent:
>>> Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:32:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . .
>>> . . .
>>>
>>>
>>> Derek,
>>> Maybe I'm coming in late to this discussion,
>>> and for that I apologize. But I would like to ask a few more
>>> questions just for clarification.
>>> You have stated before that the Pattern Nats for
>>> 2011 won't be scheduled until October of 2010. Has there
>>> been any serious discussion with the AMA about the 2011
>>> Pattern Nats and if it will even be possible to do what you
>>> are stating? Can they can even be held after the WC? It
>>> would seem that this will take a monumental shift in the
>>> Center schedule.
>>> Are the dates that you have put out for the
>>> WC's the only alternative right now? Do we even have the
>>> option of moving them later?
>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Derek Koopowitz
>>> wrote:
>>> Fluid meaning that the
>>> dates could move a few days forward or backward... yes,
>>> absolutely.   Cast in concrete -
>>> when the 1st bulletin gets mailed out.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:24
>>> PM, Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>  No it has not been
>>> worked out. You are saying your dates for the WC are fluid,
>>> and the dates for the 2011 Nats are not set even
>>> tentatively. So there is a lot in the air.
>>> Tony
>>>   On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:15 PM,
>>> Derek Koopowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually it had been all worked out
>>> until "everyone" started chiming in as to their
>>> preference for when the wc should be held and the Nats
>>> should be held... can't please all the people.
>>>  LOL
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009
>>> at 4:07 PM, Anthony Frackowiak <frackowiak at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>  I absolutely agree.
>>> IRCHA will not move their dates unless forced to by the AMA.
>>> And I doubt the AMA will do so.
>>> I find it hard to believe that this has not
>>> been worked out yet.
>>> Tony
>>>     On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:00
>>> PM, Bill's Email wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony Frackowiak wrote: Archie is absolutely correct.
>>> Tony
>>>  On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Archie Stafford
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  IRCHA is a totally
>>> different animal though.  Kind of like having Joe Nall
>>> after the pattern worlds.  I’d say most people really
>>> didn’t
>>> care about the F3C worlds.  IRCHA does a lot more 3D
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>> And my point was that attracting 900 paid participants to
>>> an event is going to give them some clout when it comes to a
>>> schedule relative to the pattern NATS. The WC are a
>>> different thing, but IRCHA is not likely to budge for the
>>> pattern NATS if it came to that.
>>>
>>>
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