[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question

[Anthony Frackowiak]

I couldn't agree more.

Tony

On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Bob Richards wrote:

> Dave L mentioned the "noise footprint", but I am not sure that is a  
> major reason (maybe it was?) that we went to turnaround. I was not  
> heavily involved in pattern at that time. However, "noise footprint"  
> can be divided into two parts, "noise" and "footprint". The fact  
> that, as Dave mentioned, some sites in the NE are starting to fly  
> pattern events again may be due more to the noise level than the  
> overall flight footprint. So, the turnaround aspect may not be the  
> saviour in this case as much as the noise reduction itself. Either  
> way, thanks can go to FAI because that is where the noise reduction  
> technology came from, and it filtered down to the AMA flyers. IMHO.
>
> All that aside, I have always felt, and expressed my opinion, that  
> the AMA rules and schedules should be geared towards what is best  
> for the sport of precision aerobatics IN THE USA. I don't think we  
> should pick schedules for any class, including Masters, with the  
> major concern of helping prepare our pilots for FAI. FAI is another  
> class, and if you think about that, here in the US it is almost two  
> classes in itself: Those that fly at national/world level, and those  
> that don't. If someone is really aspiring to fly at a world level,  
> they will find the FAI class all by themselves. The fact that we do  
> fly the FAI class at all contests is, IMHO, all we need to do to  
> help them prepare for world level competitions. There is no need for  
> us to put an FAI flavor in the Masters sequence, unless it will  
> benefit pattern flying in general.
>
> Again, this is JMHO.
>
> Bob R.
>
> --- On Tue, 10/20/09, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> As I recall, the ONLY reason AMA is now flying turnaround is because  
> F3A went to a turnaround format. The "powersthatwere" were concerned  
> that our team would not have the relevant experience to compete on  
> the world stage. This started a process of conversion to turnaround  
> by including the FAI pattern and then expert turnaround in AMA  
> pattern contests.
> The pendulum has now swung the other way where the AMA pattern  
> community, while overly committed to turnaround, rejects the  
> patterns, rules and concepts of the FAI.
>
> While I no longer see a need to use the current(or past schedule as  
> we have already done) F3A pattern as the Masters pattern, I believe  
> it is important to address whatever is new and challenging in the  
> upcoming F3A patterns and consider introducing similar elements into  
> the Masters pattern.
>
> At the other end of the spectrum, I believe that the Sportsman class  
> should have the turnaround elements removed completely. Perhaps some  
> of the center maneuvers could be upgraded in difficulty at the same  
> time. The sportsman flyer needs more focus on learning the maneuvers  
> and where to place them. Making them fly the box simply insures that  
> they aree not in position to do a proper center maneuver. This is  
> not intended as a first step in getting rid of turnaround but rather  
> creating a progression in the learning process.
>
> John Gayer
>
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