[NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

[J N Hiller]

Some of us competed in both pattern and scale, smooth or not, and still do.
Sometimes I catch myself trying to roll into a turn using rudder, oops wrong
airplane.
Jim Hiller

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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:30 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

Well, yes. But haven't the pattern rules been "bent" before. I remember the
"normally aspirated" (or some such) in the rules, but the YS and later OS
supercharged engines were allowed. And don't get me started on the sound
checks... Years back, I remember one CD at the Nats pilot's meeting making
the comment "we all know where the switch on the transmitter is".

As for the manuevers you flew in the "olden times", didn't they have
maneuvers that went behind the flight line?  :-)  I think the patterns they
are flying are similar to what was flown in the 70s.

I like pattern. I am also intrigued by SPA and really want to try it. Some
chose not to participate in SPA because of the four strokes - and that is
certainly their choice to make. But, a similar thing happened when pattern
went full turnaround, many chose not to continue pattern - and that was also
their choice to make. At least we have a LOT of choices now - SPA, BPA,
IMAC, and Pattern. I remember when, if you wanted to compete in RC, it was
pattern, pylon, or scale. If you had really fast reflexes, you might do
pylon. If you were really smooth on the sticks, you might fly pattern. If
you were niether, you flew scale. :-O

Bob R.


--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Bill Glaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net> wrote:

True, Bob.  But setting up rules, then "bending" them doesn't seem quite
right to me, either.  In the case of engines, I can understand, (in many
cases, they simply are no longer available) but in the case of airframes,
changing hinge lines, lengthening the fuselage, clipping the wings,
enlarging the rudder, making a tail-dragger into a tricycle gear, (although
I blame Sig for that) etc. etc. doesn't impress me either.  And, the
patterns aren't like we used to fly, either, in "olden times".  (In fact, I
don't know when this stuff they're flying came in; certainly after my era.)
However, if you take off the nice, new Tru-Turn spinners, the propellor nuts
are like the ones we used to use.  (In some cases, anyway.)
Bill Glaze

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From: Bob Richards
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Well, lets keep it completely vintage. Non computer radios. Proline or Kraft
only, (no 2.4g conversions!). No schneurle engines (can you still find
decent cross-flow engines?). Fox plugs. Dubro chrome hub wheels, or the
really heavy Kraft wheels. Wooden Top-Flite or Rev-Up props.

(Sarchasim off...)

Lets face it, some concessions have to be made to make it at least
practical. How many of us would want to dig up a 70s era engine and keep it
running? I don't think it is the equipment so much as it is the flying style
that they are trying to recreate, and my hat is off to them for that. It
won't be everyone's cup-o-tea, but neither is today's pattern.

Bob R.


--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Pete Cosky <pcosky at comcast.net> wrote:

I'm with you John. When I was into racing anything vintage had to
be....well...vintage.
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Electrics in SPA? Jeez, that's kind of hard to stomach. Next they're going
to allow electronic fuel-injection and anti-lock brakes in Vintage Sports
Car Racing. LOL

John Pavlick




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